[HECnet] A USNO GPS network time server is now in operation at Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA

[Thomas DeBellis]

I'm not sure I'm following all this.

I didn't see that usno.hpl.hp.com exists, see below.  There doesn't 
appear to be any DNS name associated with the IP address. It does 
respond to a ping.

    $ *ping -c 4 usno.hpl.hp.com*
    ping: cannot resolve usno.hpl.hp.com: Unknown host
    $ *nslookup 204.123.2.72 *


    ;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 68.237.161.12, trying next server
    ;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 71.243.0.12, trying next server
    Server:        192.168.22.1
    Address:    192.168.22.1#53

    ** server can't find 72.2.123.204.in-addr.arpa: SERVFAIL
    $ *ping -c 4 204.123.2.72 *
    PING 204.123.2.72 (204.123.2.72): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 204.123.2.72: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=76.880 ms
    64 bytes from 204.123.2.72: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=69.378 ms
    64 bytes from 204.123.2.72: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=70.053 ms
    64 bytes from 204.123.2.72: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=69.613 ms

I checked the IP address and host name against a number of DNS servers.  
It does not respond to a time request on port 37

10:06:31 USER   Site            Greenwich Mean Time ->  Local Time Zone
10:06:31 USER Difference      Delay
10:06:31 USER   VENTI2          22-Nov-2021 15:06:31 ->  22-Nov-2021 
10:06:31-EST
10:06:31 USER   time.nist.gov           Error in TCP receive.
10:06:31 USER   wwv.nist.gov            22-Nov-2021 15:06:31  
->                 :00
10:06:31 USER   utcnist.colorado.edu 22-Nov-2021 15:06:31  
->                 :00
10:06:41 USER *204.123.2.72            timed out.*
10:06:41 USER   time.maconbibb.us       timed out.
10:06:41 USER   nist.netservicesgroup.com       timed out.
10:06:41 USER
10:06:41 USER                   Average difference                     :00
10:06:41 USER                   Average clock time 22-Nov-2021 10:06:31-EST
10:06:41 USER                   Time spent surveying = 18.131 seconds.

Getting time on TCP port 37 is /old/.  I only do it because that is all 
I have until such time as I port something smarter. Note the following 
from NIST: "We will continue to support the "TIME" protocol that uses 
TCP port 37 for the forseeable future." So not responding on port 37 
might not be a false negative, if only NTP is supported.

On 11/20/21 8:39 PM, David Moylan wrote:
> That IP address space is now owned by HP and this NTP host is now known as usno.hpl.hp.com
>
> Side note: the dec.com domain name was sold by HP and is now owned by Paul Kocher.
> (He's one of the people that discovered the Spectre vulnerability in x86 CPU's.)
>
> I've been in touch with Paul about dec.com and he told me that he's not interested in selling it or passing it across to any related hobbyist group.
> He advised me that he'd purchased it from HP when it was auctioned off.
>
> According to the records, the domain dec.com was sold by Heritage Auctions on July 24th 2014 for $57,500.
>
> In the same auction another person purchased digital.com for $373,750
>
> Cheers, Wiz!!
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE  <owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>  On
>> Behalf Of Supratim Sanyal
>> Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2021 9:34 AM
>> To:hecnet at update.uu.se
>> Subject: [HECnet] A USNO GPS network time server is now in operation at
>> Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA
>>
>> "A USNO GPS network time server is now in operation at Digital Equipment
>> Corporation, Palo Alto, CA. This is an open-access stratum-1 for the Pacific
>> Timezone:
>> usno.pa-x.dec.com     204.123.2.72 (CNAME ntp-dec.usno.navy.mil)"
>>
>> 204.123.2.72 still returns time as stratum 1.
>>
>> usno.pa-x.dec.com and ntp-dec.usno.navy.mil do not resolve.
>>
>> Ref: March 1997 revision of:
>> http://gisweb.massey.ac.nz/topic/webreferencesites/gps/usnavy/ntp.html
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