[HECnet] Towards the Mouth of Madness....

[Kari Uusim ki]

You don't have to find old tapes for getting the Pathworks for OpenVMS (Netware) as it is called. On the VAX SPL's from 1995 to September 1998 you'll find the kit.
If you don't have the necessary SPL's, I can extract the kit from my SPL.
The licenses are more complicated to find as Pathworks licenses has never been available for hobbyists.

IIRC the Pathworks Netware implementation was at Netware V3.12. Compaq did put an end to that story and the development didn't reach the Netware V4.* level.


Kari




On 12.7.2011 22:40, Jason Stevens wrote:
I guess I got in at the end of the Netware years (Yeah I know
governments still use) and I did live through the entire Ethernet,
EthernetII, 802.2, 802.3 fiasco's (lol so much for standard....) All the
stuff we had midrange did speak IPX/SPX, from the NeXT to the RS/6000's
and PC's.... Oddly enough our VAX's actually had some netware thing.   I
wish I'd managed to make copies of the tapes, but we did have Netware
for VAX/VMS.

For our mainframe access we used Novell's SAA gateway which... was
terrible, when Microsoft shipped SNA server 2.1 (was there a 1.0?!) we
RAN to that... And used it over IPX/SXP with people even using dialup
shiva's!

It wasn't until 95 with Microsoft including TCP/IP into the consumer OS
did it really start to matter.

Well from my POV anyways.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:27 PM, H Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl
<mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>> wrote:

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      Remember what I wrote: this happened nearly two decades ago.____

      IP is the protocol that survived and most people aren   t even aware
      what happened on local area networks before, say,1998.____

      I worked for Fuji, photosensitive films, paper and offset printing
      products.____

      Most of the IT equipment was made by DEC: PDP-11   s (/44, /84, /93,
      /24, /73 and /23), VAXes, an IBM mainframe (4081) and PC   s.____

      And lots of other gear, most of it in the research lab. A Motorola
      box that ran Motorola Unix, and an RS/6000 under AIX 2.4 (?).____

      The lingua franca was DECnet and LAT. No IP, though some PC   s used
      Novell and SNA over tokenring to make terminal emulation to the
      mainframe possible.____

      No IP.   Sounds weird in today   s world but DECnet eventually
      connected everything. We got a **very** early Cisco router that did
      level 1____

      DECnet routing between the corporate ethernet and the finance dept
      token ring. Another (DEC) box that routed DECnet over Datanet/1
      (that   s X25 in Europe IIRC). The mainframe used an SNA/DECnet
      gateway (the big channel attached box).____

      The RS/6000 and the Motorola systems also ran DECnet, endnode only.____

      To make this a little interesting we ran the first FDDI network in
      the Netherlands.____

      Trouble shooting wasn   t always easy, especially if the SNA/DECnet
      gateway was involved!____

      Hans____

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      AIX and decnet? now that'd be ... non conformist & fun! ____

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