[HECnet] BLISS-16?

[Johnny Billquist]

All of RMS-11 is written in BLISS-16. Parts of the RSX kernel is written in BLISS-16, and also parts of DECnet-RSX is written in BLISS-16. Cross-compiled on VMS, and the result transferred back to the RSX system for the full build. Listings and stuff from the BLISS-16 compiles are distributed as a part of the RSX distribution.

	Johnny

On 2011-10-10 16.01, Paul_Koning at Dell.com wrote:
I don't know that DEC used Bliss at all for PDP-11 software.   The only place I ever saw it was in an Algol-68 compiler written at Carnegie-Mellon (the original perpetrators of Bliss).   That was a different edition, though, called Bliss-11 and hosted on a PDP-10.

	paul

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From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
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Subject: Re: [HECnet] BLISS-16?

Hi, Steve.

Looking for the cross compiler. (Like I said, BLISS-16 for VMS... :-) ).

I've seen one reference for uBLISS, but I have no idea of the status of that one. Was it even usable? Why did DEC not use it internally for the Bliss stuff for PDP-11s?

	Johnny

On 2011-10-10 15.55, Steve Davidson wrote:
Johnny,

Are you looking for the cross compiler (BLISS-16C) that ran on VAX
(VMS) generating code for the 11's, or are you looking for the
compiler that ran directly on the 11's (uBLISS AKA microBLISS)?
BLISS-16C while hard to find may be available, the other one I have
only seen (and used) once in the 80's while at DEC and don't expect it to be available anywhere.

I will check to see if I have a copy of either, but it may take a while!
I'm not sure what condition the tapes I have are in - it has been
decades since they were last accessed.

-Steve

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Subject: [HECnet] BLISS-16?

Do anyone have BLISS-16 for VMS? I guess it might be bundled with
BLISS-32, but I don't know. I would like to test it some, and I have
a VAX box running VMS, but my distribution CDs are far away, and I
don't know if I have BLISS in there, but I thought I'd start by
asking here before I try to get access to CDs 2000 km away...

	Johnny