Fwd: Re: [HECnet] More clustering fun

Peter Coghlan HECNET at beyondthepale.ie
Tue Sep 20 00:01:51 PDT 2011


Weird, however, that I can mount an ODS-5 drive on the VAX and indeed do 
directory listings and the like. Wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen 
it. Is it some feature of 7.3.1 that I didn't know about? Or maybe 
specific to mounting drives in a cluster?


Strange indeed. HELP INITIALIZE /STRUCTURE on Alpha VMS 7.3-1 says that VAX
deos not support Structure Level 5 disks, and specifying 5 on VAX results
in an error. I don't have a 7.3 VAX system to hand to check what that says.
The help for MOUNT is silent on the issue.

I wonder what happens if you try to access filenames with ODS-5 specific
features from the VAX side?


Regarding AUTOGEN - I tried what you suggested and there were no 
differences between the before and after files. I can post them if you 
like, but I'm not sure they are going to be much use.


Bother! I neglected to include "USE CURRENT" before the SHOW commands!
As result, both BEFORE.TXT and AFTER.TXT ended up listing the "active"
parameter set, ie what is in memory. AUTOGEN, on the other hand updates
the "current" parameter set which is the parameter set on the disk.

Assuming you have now rebooted after the AUTOGEN, if you now repeat:

$ DEFINE /USER SYS$OUTPUT AFTER.TXT
$ MCR SYSGEN
SHOW /ALL
SHOW /SPECIAL
^Z

You should get an updated AFTER.TXT suitable for comparison with BEFORE.TXT
which was generated before the AUTOGEN. This should then reveal the changes
AUTOGEN made.

(It would be unusual for AUTOGEN to result in no changes at all.)


Note that having manually changed the parameters with SYSGEN the system 
should be in line with the MODPARAMS file which is what I saw.


But haven't you done an AUTOGEN already as part of the commands I suggested
for comparing the system parameters before and after it? If you have, AUTOGEN
will have set the system parameters taking account of what it found in
MODPARAMS.DAT.


I'm going to back up the ALPHASYSTEM disk when it's offline and then 
I'll try an AUTOGEN and see what happens this time. Maybe it was 
something else which is now working. With a backup it will be trivial to 
revert.


A backup is always good to have.


The system disk move from ODS-5 to OSD-2 was uneventful. I created an 
extra shadow member $4$DKC500: in shadowset DSA0: which was running on 
$4$DKB0: and $4$DKB100:, then I dismounted the new member $4$DKC500: and 
$4$DKB100:. I then followed the instructions here: 
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6536/6536pro_001.html

Which went something like this:

$ INITIALIZE /STRUCTURE_LEVEL=5 $4$DKB100: SLAVESYSTEM

Shouldn't that be /STRUCTURE_LEVEL=2 ? I guess that's what you did and 5 is
a typo?

$ MOUNT/FOREIGN $4$DKB100:
$ BACKUP/LOG/CONVERT/IMAGE $4$DKC500: $4$DKB100:/NOINIT

then shutdown the system, swapped $4$DKB0: and $4$DKB100: so the OSD-2 
drive was now the single shadow set member, rebooted then issued a

$ MOUNT/SYSTEM DSA0: /SHADOW=($4$DKB0:, $4$DKB100:) SLAVESYSTEM SYSTEM$

to bring $4$DKB100: (the old ODS-5 drive) back into the shadowset via copy.

The ALPHA and VAX are now clustered nicely, including a common SYSAUTH 
and RIGHTSLIST, so I can now login to my normal account hosted on the 
ALPHA from the VAX. I've also pulled out common logicals and mounts into 
a common file.

Good progress today.


Good news that everything is working now.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.



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