That would be me :-) I just joined! I have three nodes, o. DOCMST 12.1 - Ubuntu o. BENDER 12.2 - VMS, DECnet OSI o. TRON 12.3 - RSTS 10.1, DECnet/E Tim. Sent from my Sony Ericsson Xperia arc sampsa at mac.com wrote: Just did my usual SHOW KNOW CIRC on gorvax, and saw an area 12? They don't seem to be listed in the node database or MIM::DECNET.TXT.. sampsa