[HECnet] NT 4 on AlphaServer es40

[Cory Smelosky]

On 11 Feb 2013, at 18:42, Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org> wrote:



On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:


On 11 Feb 2013, at 18:17, Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org> wrote:



On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, Cory Smelosky wrote:


On 11 Feb 2013, at 17:35, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:


On 11 Feb 2013, at 17:33, Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com> wrote:


On 11 Feb 2013, at 21:41, Dave McGuire wrote:

That I won't argue with. That reminds me, I need to get my PDP-11
emulation back up and running. I'm actually missing using RSX-11 M+
(there's something wrong with me, I swear. It's Johnny's fault! :P
).

EVERYTHING is Johnny's fault. ;)   Bring up that PDP-11! (even if it's
not real iron!)

I think I've heard that before (Jonny's fault ;-), while I may not
necessarily agree with it.

Eh, Ma  ana. It takes me over an hour to do a fresh SYSGEN and NETGEN and I haven't done it in ages so I'll be out of practice.

I do want to get it running again though and delve a little deeper into RSX-11 :)


Which reminds me, I need to get my RSX-11M+ VM back up?shame E11 has no x86_64 build?the distro I run doesn't have an i386 compat layer.

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Anyway, back on topic:   I think running NT 4 on this is a lost cause. ;)

Um...yes, I believe there is a support disk (as I mentioned a week back),
I have TSE running on both of my White Elephants (DecServer 3300s).   But I
would have to agree with Dave, that it is kind of like strapping a couch
to your Ferrari (sure it will work, but it is not very practical).   This
was the first install I did on my 3300s and that was BEFORE Y2k.   And both
of these machines have been turned off for years. :(

No support disk for the ES40 proper, closest I could get was DS20, so i'm currently installing Tru64.

That's a rather old install then. ;)

Yes, a VERY old install.   That was back in them medieval days when a shop
that I was working with had the big white Micro$oft experimental CD's that
had pretty much all of their development work on.   One of them was the TSE
install for Alpha...and I was in the process of getting Citrix certified.
It was my understanding that the code for TSE "came from Citrix" and was
given to Micro$oft to be imbeded in NT4.   Megaframe was that nasty stuff
that we had been running on NT3.5 so when NT4 came out, it was...umm, I am
trying to say better (which it was).   But it was still terrible.   We had a
Compaq server farm that ONLY ran well when you rebooted it every morning.
(NT4 had terrible memory leaks)

Yup.   RDP was based on a Citrix product. ;)

A friend of mine HATED TSE   he found it to be a kludge with the goofy Citrix stuff tacked on.   At least NT 4 TSE has a better UI than 2000. ;)




I think i'm going to go try Tru64.

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Yes, this would be a much better approach. ;-)

Brett