[HECnet] Anyone got TOPS-20 / Ultrix with DECNET SIMH image ready to run?

Cory Smelosky b4 at gewt.net
Wed Jun 12 20:32:31 PDT 2013


On 12 Jun 2013, at 15:26, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

On 06/12/2013 02:59 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On the contrary.   The design of X is very clean.   (yes, I've been "all
up in there".)   There are some things about its innards that I do not
like, but overall, it's extremely well-done.


Ohhh.   We're talking protocol design and that stuff.   Yes, THAT is
clean. I've just had experience with very bad implementations I guess. 
Like the one I'm currently running that likes to use 100% CPU doing
nothing for no reason.   This wouldn't happen on a properly-implemented
workstation I would admit.   However on a PeeCee where politics is more
important than doing things well...issues arise.

  Well XFree86 (which is what I assume you're talking about), while
amazing in some ways, is a real piece of crap in others.

Yes.   I 100% agree with that.   X decided to randomly restart when I was pulling ethernet cables...


I'm still a fan of NeWS myself. ;)

  It was a neat idea.

Very!


The fact that we're still using it three decades later on completely,
totally different hardware, in completely different ways, tells a lot.

That does say a lot.   I'd still argue that the implementations still
need work though.

  I will not disagree with that.

Smart man. ;)


Some parts of how we're using it now, though (like client-side font
rendering) are extremely kludgy.   But that's not the fault of X.

I'd agree.   I didn't know we were discussing the protocol. ;)

  Well you said "X", which is a protocol, not a piece of software.

Yeah,   I have a habit of doing that.   The executed binary being named    X    sometimes confuses me. ;)


                    -Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
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