[HECnet] Another sillyness. More information in the nodename database on MIM.

[Ian McLaughlin]

Johnny,

If you still keep ownership of adding new nodes to the system (a sane human gatekeeper has merits), then just allow people to edit their own area entries.   That way a user can't accidentally remove a machine (or a whole bunch) - the worst that can happen is screwing up the meta data (machine type, OS, etc).

Ian

On 2013-05-18, at 9:04 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

On 2013-05-18 15:00, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Is there a way we can get write access to the db? That way we can keep our own info up to date.

I was thinking about it. Pros and cons. Easier for updating. Potentially anyone erasing the whole thing. The granularity of permissions is by the whole table.

It would perhaps be possible to do something that everyone had their own table, and then I'd just pull data from all of them for various tasks. But then I'd have potential name collision issues and what not...

Actually, thinking a bit more, I could probably do some web interface with people having their own passwords and the ability to update just their data that way. Needs some thinking perhaps, but maybe the most doable.

Anyone else have some ideas on how to do it?

	Johnny


-brian

On May 17, 2013, at 12:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

On 2013-05-17 16:18, Bob Armstrong wrote:
On 2013-05-16 18:28, Johnny Billquist wrote:
This is a totally volontary thing. I've finally come to the point
where I think that there are a few more pieces of data on nodes
that would be nice/useful to have from time to time.

  Much of the information you want (all of it, I think) is already in the
INFO.TXT file -

$ type legato""::info.txt
....
ADDR |NAME   |OWNER                   |EMAIL                 |HARDWARE                       |OS
|LOCATION               |NOTES
2.1   |LEGATO|Bob Armstrong   |bob at jfcl.com   |simh                               |OpenVMS
7.3|Milpitas, CA, US|DCN Multinet Ro
uter
2.2   |POCO   |                             |                           |MicroVAX-2000             |
|                               |6MB, RD54, TK50
2.4   |MEZZO |                             |                           |PDP-11/53                     |RSTS
|                               |3.5MB, 2xRA73,TK70, SCSI
2.6   |LARGO |                             |                           |VAX-11/730                   |VMS 4.7
|                               |R80, 2xRA81, RL02, RX02, TU80
2.7   |CODA   |                             |                           |DS20E                             |OpenVMS
8.3|                               |
2.9   |DIVISI|                             |                           |VAX-8350                       |VMS 5.5-2
|                               |16MB, RA81, RA82, TU81+
2.10 |ADAGIO|                             |                           |VAXserver 3900           |VMS 6.0
|                               |RA81, RX50, 2xRD54, Kennedy 9610, RRD50, RF31, 2xRF71,
RF72, SQ703, Exabyte 8505
2.11 |LENTO |                             |                           |PDP-11/73                     |RSX-11M+
|                               |2xRD32, RX50, RL02, Kennedy 9600
2.12 |JENSEN|                             |                           |DEC 2000 axp               |OpenVMS
7.3|                               |
2.13 |ZITI   |                             |                           |eBox-3310                     |Ubuntu
|                               |
2.14 |MULTIA|                             |                           |Multia UDB                   |OpenVMS
7.3|                               |
2.15 |PAVANE|                             |                           |DECstation 3100         |Ultrix
|                               |MIPS box w/DECnet-Ultrix
2.16 |SKETTI|                             |                           |HP ProLiant ML110G4 |Ubuntu
|                               |
2.18 |DSRVB1|                             |                           |DECserver-200/MC       |
|                               |
2.19 |DSRVB2|                             |                           |DECserver-200/MC       |
|                               |

  FWIW, keeping a central database up to date is going to be a nightmare -
that's why we invented the INFO.TXT files; so each sysadmin could locally
update his own information.

Yes. I know... :-)

Which I said this is all voluntary and so on. I've just felt that the INFO.TXT is not really working that well either. At least not from my point of view. I'm willing to try different things. I could consider some automatic scraping and population of the nodename database from some distributed sources as well, if we can come up with something that seems reasonable.

Oh, and thanks.

    Johnny



-- 
Johnny Billquist                                   || "I'm on a bus
                                                                ||   on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se                         ||   Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                                         ||   tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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