Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> writes: There we go - found it: http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/541 Hoff seems to have every bit of VMS arcana squirreled away on his site. :) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.