[HECnet] RSTS/E is really picky

Dave McGuire mcguire at neurotica.com
Wed May 21 00:11:17 PDT 2014


On 05/20/2014 07:04 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
      Didn't you advise me against running M+ on an 11/24 for reasons
of no
split I/D space?   It's not that it won't work, it's that it won't be
pleasant.   M (non +) runs great on F11-based systems anyway.

I don't know (remember) what I might have said. But depending on
different things, running M+ on an 11/23 or 11/24 can be a little
painful. But running 11M in general is more painful than M+ anyway, so I
would at least recommend trying M+.

    Well, I have a personal desire to run M...I ran it for many years
25-30 years ago, and I like it.   I've never had much experience with M+.
  I will definitely run M+ on the machines I have that are capable of
running it, though.

M+ is really nothing strange if you're used to 11M. It is just much
nicer, more capable, and generally faster...

  ...and won't run on my 11/34, for example. ;)   (I *think*...right?)
Remember, while I do use simh quite a bit, I'm primarily based on real
hardware here, and I can't do "set cpu .." on that. ;)

(That said, without split I/D-space, you'll have preciously little
pool
space, but that might not be a big issue for you right here.)

      I think that was why.

Yeah. Without supervisor mode and split I/D-space, you will have very
little system pool. If you are not running a bunch of things on the
system, you should still be able to survive though.
Oh, and my TCP/IP will not work on those systems.

    THAT was it, I wanted to run your IP stack.   I ended up setting it up
(the OS, not yet your IP stack) on an 11/44 instead.

Yeah. My IP will not run on such machines, and I have no plans on ever
implementing it. It could be done, of course, but the work is no fun,
and I have so many other more important things to waste my time on... :-)

  Well I'd be one user, if you ever decide to do it.   I'd then bring up
the world's first PDP-11/34-based web server!

                                  -Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA



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