[HECnet] My RSTS/E system...

[Johnny Billquist]

By the way, Steve. What version of RSTS/E?

I noticed another "odd" thing here.

.set /host=pluto

NCT -- CTERM is not available on host
NCT -- Using RMT


RMT -- Remote Host incompatibility error


.

Sigh. Seems like I have a few more bugs in RSX I should look at.

   Johnny

On 2018-08-13 02:08, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Cool. Thanks for leading me to it. And that machine I can talk to from 
> MIM without problems, so it's something specific to that machine it 
> appears.
> 
>    Johnny
> 
> On 2018-08-12 23:49, Steve Davidson wrote:
>> PLUTO:: is available for testing.
>>
>> -Steve Davidson
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 17:32, Keith Halewood 
>>> <Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I use set host on vms to login to the little rsts/e box, I have to:
>>>
>>> Set host/app=rt
>>>
>>> To connect to rterm and not cterm. It works quite well.
>>>
>>>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 22:24, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-08-12 22:30, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-08-12 21:28, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By exploring adjacent nodes and known circuits, you'd get a more 
>>>>>>>> complete picture, as it will also show you connections which are 
>>>>>>>> not the lowest cost paths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, as I said, it will only give a partial picture anyway. 
>>>>>>>> I also found out the other day that it don't seem like RSTS/E 
>>>>>>>> implements it either, or maybe it depends on version and maybe 
>>>>>>>> it's optional.
>>>>>>> DECnet/E definitely implements NICE, has from the beginning 
>>>>>>> (i.e., from when DECnet/E 2.0 which is the Phase III release was 
>>>>>>> first shipped).
>>>>>>> However, it need not be enabled as a known object.  And if 
>>>>>>> enabled, it may or may not accept connections without access 
>>>>>>> control variables (PPN/password).  If not, you'll get a reject 
>>>>>>> indicating either no such object or bad access control.  However, 
>>>>>>> if the connection is accepted you should find a full implementation.
>>>>>>> Of course mapping information exists only in routers; if the node 
>>>>>>> you're talking to is an endnode it will only tell you who the 
>>>>>>> adjacent designated router is (or the adjacent nodes, on point to 
>>>>>>> point circuits).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case not enabled then, I think. Thanks for clarifying that 
>>>>>> it exists. I only did a reflection based on trying to look at an 
>>>>>> RSTS/E node just the other day that did not give me anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .ncp tell marduk sho exec
>>>>>> NCP -- Show failed, Listener connect failed, network resources
>>>>> If it's not enabled I'd expect an error.  Network resources is a 
>>>>> bit odd.  Possibly there is a default account defined but that 
>>>>> account doesn't exist, or is configured as "no network connections 
>>>>> allowed".
>>>>
>>>> Agreed that it's a bit surprising error. I have not tried looking 
>>>> deeper into it. Maybe I should. Do you have any RSTS/E system online 
>>>> I can try talking to just to make sure it's nothing more general?
>>>>
>>>>>> And I did verify that it's an up and running RSTS/E system. V9.6 
>>>>>> according to information I have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might also be some other kind of problem somewhere that I haven't 
>>>>>> figured out. System also isn't talking CTERM, but did answer when 
>>>>>> I tried some RSTS/E specific terminal protocol.
>>>>> RSTS/E doesn't support CTERM, only the older OS-specific procotol.  
>>>>> That doesn't involve DECnet credential checking (instead you get a 
>>>>> RSTS login prompt).
>>>> I believe I concluded as much. :-)
>>>> However, CTERM will/would only lead you to a login prompt as well.
>>>>
>>>> The RSTS/E specific remote terminal application under RSX have some 
>>>> bug, though. When it finishes, it crashes the RSX system. Definitely 
>>>> a problem I need to fix.
>>>>
>>>> Johnny
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>>>                                  ||  on a psychedelic trip
>>>> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
>>>> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>
> 

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Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol