[HECnet] My RSTS/E system...

[Mark Abene]

This is what I saw on my end:

Event type 34.0, Object spawned
Occurred 29-Jul-31 13:19:43.4 on node 61.151 (MARDUK)
Source node = 1.13 (MIM)
Source process = 0 0 0 BILLQUIST
Destination process = 19
User = 61,1
Password = ...



Event type 34.0, Object spawned
Occurred 29-Jul-31 13:22:33.4 on node 61.151 (MARDUK)
Source node = 1.13 (MIM)
Source process = 0 0 0 BILLQUIST
Destination process = 17
User = 61,1
Password = ...



Event type 34.1, Object spawn failure
Occurred 29-Jul-31 17:10:42.9 on node 61.151 (MARDUK)
Reason: Unknown Object identification
Source node = 1.13 (MIM)
Source process = 0 NCT
Destination process = 42



Event type 34.0, Object spawned
Occurred 29-Jul-31 17:10:43.8 on node 61.151 (MARDUK)
Source node = 1.13 (MIM)
Source process = 0 0 0 BILLQUIST
Destination process = 23
User = 1,2
Password = ...


Incidentally there is no PPN of 61,1 on my system (RSTS/E V9.6).

-Mark


On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

> On 2018-08-12 22:30, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2018-08-12 21:28, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By exploring adjacent nodes and known circuits, you'd get a more
>>>>> complete picture, as it will also show you connections which are not the
>>>>> lowest cost paths.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, as I said, it will only give a partial picture anyway. I also
>>>>> found out the other day that it don't seem like RSTS/E implements it
>>>>> either, or maybe it depends on version and maybe it's optional.
>>>>>
>>>> DECnet/E definitely implements NICE, has from the beginning (i.e., from
>>>> when DECnet/E 2.0 which is the Phase III release was first shipped).
>>>> However, it need not be enabled as a known object.  And if enabled, it
>>>> may or may not accept connections without access control variables
>>>> (PPN/password).  If not, you'll get a reject indicating either no such
>>>> object or bad access control.  However, if the connection is accepted you
>>>> should find a full implementation.
>>>> Of course mapping information exists only in routers; if the node
>>>> you're talking to is an endnode it will only tell you who the adjacent
>>>> designated router is (or the adjacent nodes, on point to point circuits).
>>>>
>>>
>>> In this case not enabled then, I think. Thanks for clarifying that it
>>> exists. I only did a reflection based on trying to look at an RSTS/E node
>>> just the other day that did not give me anything.
>>>
>>> .ncp tell marduk sho exec
>>> NCP -- Show failed, Listener connect failed, network resources
>>>
>>
>> If it's not enabled I'd expect an error.  Network resources is a bit
>> odd.  Possibly there is a default account defined but that account doesn't
>> exist, or is configured as "no network connections allowed".
>>
>
> Agreed that it's a bit surprising error. I have not tried looking deeper
> into it. Maybe I should. Do you have any RSTS/E system online I can try
> talking to just to make sure it's nothing more general?
>
> And I did verify that it's an up and running RSTS/E system. V9.6 according
>>> to information I have.
>>>
>>> Might also be some other kind of problem somewhere that I haven't
>>> figured out. System also isn't talking CTERM, but did answer when I tried
>>> some RSTS/E specific terminal protocol.
>>>
>>
>> RSTS/E doesn't support CTERM, only the older OS-specific procotol.  That
>> doesn't involve DECnet credential checking (instead you get a RSTS login
>> prompt).
>>
> I believe I concluded as much. :-)
> However, CTERM will/would only lead you to a login prompt as well.
>
> The RSTS/E specific remote terminal application under RSX have some bug,
> though. When it finishes, it crashes the RSX system. Definitely a problem I
> need to fix.
>
>
>   Johnny
>
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>
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