[HECnet] My RSTS/E system...

[Steve Davidson]

I either use set host/app=rtem or set host/lat to get to PLUTO::.

-Steve

> On Aug 12, 2018, at 17:32, Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org> wrote:
> 
> When I use set host on vms to login to the little rsts/e box, I have to:
> 
> Set host/app=rt
> 
> To connect to rterm and not cterm. It works quite well.
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 22:24, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2018-08-12 22:30, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2018-08-12 21:28, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> By exploring adjacent nodes and known circuits, you'd get a more complete picture, as it will also show you connections which are not the lowest cost paths.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, as I said, it will only give a partial picture anyway. I also found out the other day that it don't seem like RSTS/E implements it either, or maybe it depends on version and maybe it's optional.
>>>>> DECnet/E definitely implements NICE, has from the beginning (i.e., from when DECnet/E 2.0 which is the Phase III release was first shipped).
>>>>> However, it need not be enabled as a known object.  And if enabled, it may or may not accept connections without access control variables (PPN/password).  If not, you'll get a reject indicating either no such object or bad access control.  However, if the connection is accepted you should find a full implementation.
>>>>> Of course mapping information exists only in routers; if the node you're talking to is an endnode it will only tell you who the adjacent designated router is (or the adjacent nodes, on point to point circuits).
>>>> 
>>>> In this case not enabled then, I think. Thanks for clarifying that it exists. I only did a reflection based on trying to look at an RSTS/E node just the other day that did not give me anything.
>>>> 
>>>> .ncp tell marduk sho exec
>>>> NCP -- Show failed, Listener connect failed, network resources
>>> If it's not enabled I'd expect an error.  Network resources is a bit odd.  Possibly there is a default account defined but that account doesn't exist, or is configured as "no network connections allowed".
>> 
>> Agreed that it's a bit surprising error. I have not tried looking deeper into it. Maybe I should. Do you have any RSTS/E system online I can try talking to just to make sure it's nothing more general?
>> 
>>>> And I did verify that it's an up and running RSTS/E system. V9.6 according to information I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Might also be some other kind of problem somewhere that I haven't figured out. System also isn't talking CTERM, but did answer when I tried some RSTS/E specific terminal protocol.
>>> RSTS/E doesn't support CTERM, only the older OS-specific procotol.  That doesn't involve DECnet credential checking (instead you get a RSTS login prompt).
>> I believe I concluded as much. :-)
>> However, CTERM will/would only lead you to a login prompt as well.
>> 
>> The RSTS/E specific remote terminal application under RSX have some bug, though. When it finishes, it crashes the RSX system. Definitely a problem I need to fix.
>> 
>> Johnny
>> 
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