[HECnet] Connections?
Brian Hechinger
wonko at 4amlunch.net
Wed May 2 12:22:36 PDT 2018
The idea is to expand the cisco tunnel configuration management tool I
wrote to support multinet and the bridge.
Wherever there are endpoints (bridge, multinet) there would be an agent
that manages the config driven by a centralized system.
I was going to re-write the cisco tunnel one anyway, so figured why not
expand if people were interested.
The nice part about this is the people who manage the "hubs" wouldn't have
to do anything. It would all be user self service driven.
With the cisco tunnel thing I can just use SNMP to push config fragments
onto the routers. WIth the bridge and multinet that's not an option, so a
locally running agent would take up that work.
Why you ask? I automate things for a living. It's what I enjoy doing. :)
-brian
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> On that topic, why would you be generating code? It's just a config file
> that needs changing, and then a signal sent to the process. (For the
> bridge).
>
> For multinet, it essentially would be a couple of configuration commands
> under VMS or RSX. I don't get the "output 'C'" comment at all.
>
> Johnny
>
> On 2018-04-30 01:02, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>
>> I can and that would probably be my fall back option.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 18:45 Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net <mailto:
>> steve at davidson.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Can you output "C"?
>>
>> -Steve Davidson
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 29, 2018, at 15:48, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
>> <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't think I'd be
>> interested in any kind of automation like that for my systems. I
>> prefer to know explicitly what I have.
>> >
>> > Johnny
>> >
>> >> On 2018-04-29 21:20, Brian Hechinger wrote:
>> >> Would anyone be interested in some manner of automation for this
>> similar to what I do for the cisco tunnels?
>> >> Re-writing that in Go has been on my short list for a while now.
>> Mayne now is the time to look to expanding it as well.
>> >> One of the things I was going to add was a web front end so you
>> can all manage your own endpoints.
>> >> The bridge will be easy, I can write an agent that can run there
>> to manage it as those are all unix boxes and so I should be able to
>> generate binaries for that.
>> >> Multinet may be a tad trickier since Go doesn’t generate
>> binaries for VMS/RSX/etc so I may have to pick something else there.
>> Not sure what I’d do.
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >> -brian
>> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Steve Davidson <steve at davidson.net
>> <mailto:steve at davidson.net>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I can do eastern US like I did the bridge. I have to finish
>> the Tex build though...
>> >>>
>> >>> -Steve Davidson
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 12:23, Jeroen Brons
>> <idiotoflinux at gmail.com <mailto:idiotoflinux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> i''m Also in the Netherlands, but because of my ISP my IP isnt
>> exactly static (although it stays the same most of the time...), and
>> as it's running at home im willing to run a bridge but i cannot
>> guarantee uptime
>> >>>>> Op 29 apr. 2018, om 18:19 heeft Hans Vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl
>> <mailto:hvlems at zonnet.nl>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Johnny
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My connection to Hecnet is thru your site with your bridge
>> program. It runs on a Fedora (17) system that also hosts A44RTR.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> None of my systems run Multinet, and A44RTR runs VAX/VMS V7.3
>> and DECnet phase IV. It may be converted to run phase V if that
>> would help you.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My internet connection is ADSL2+ which translates to 11 Mb/s
>> downstream and less than 400 kb/s upstream. Not bloody useful as a
>> hub, then again Netherlands is not exactly in southern Europe.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Op 29 apr. 2018 om 17:52 heeft Johnny Billquist
>> <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Guys. I figure I should try to get a more formalized
>> handling of connections to HECnet.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> With my bridge, it's mostly just people connecting to me,
>> but this is not a solution that scales very well, so in general I
>> now try to discourage people from this option. When possible, I
>> prefer to move people away from it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Multinet on the other hand scales well. And is possible to
>> use directly both in VMS and RSX. However, it is silly and
>> inefficient if all multinet links are to go to me. So I'm thinking
>> about identifying a few people/places elsewhere in the world, which
>> can be used for connections where it makes more sense for a somewhat
>> closer point of connection.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So, I would go on dealing with Europe. Might at some point
>> be that we'd like a second point in the south of Europe, but that is
>> not a high priority right now.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> However, for the US, it would be nice if we could identify a
>> location on each coast, which have a capable system, and normally is
>> always online, and which have a good bandwidth, and would be willing
>> to setup connections to new machines that want to come online.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So, are there any takers? I'll continue to be the first
>> point of contact when people come asking, but I'd be happy if I
>> could redirect them to the appropriate person once we have figured
>> out a few basic details.
>> >>>>>> And then these two persons can work on establishing the
>> actual link.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Johnny
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>> >>>>>> || on a psychedelic trip
>> >>>>>> email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>> || Reading murder books
>> >>>>>> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" -
>> B. Idol
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
>> > || on a psychedelic trip
>> > email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se> ||
>> Reading murder books
>> > pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>
>>
> --
> Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
> || on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
> pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>
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