[HECnet] Sunlink DNA

Jason Stevens jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com
Thu Sep 20 19:46:30 PDT 2018 

>From memory you really want to do a ‘static’ build of TME.  I’ve always had issues with it finding itself.

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From: Ray Jewhurst
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:30 AM
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA

Still having problems.  It's not seeing any devices.  Here's what I get:

./MY-SUN2:8: tme/machine/sun2: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:9: mainbus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:10: mainbus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:11: mainbus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:12: obmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:13: obmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:14: obmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:18: obio0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:19: obio0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:20: obio0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:24: mainbus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:25: tme/generic/bus: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:26: mbmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:30: mbmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:31: sc0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:63: obmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:64: obmem0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:65: zs1: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:66: zs1: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:67: tme/host/gtk/display: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:68: bwtwo0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:69: kbd0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:70: ms0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:87: scsibus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:88: sd0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:95: scsibus0: No such file or directory
./MY-SUN2:96: st0: No such file or directory
tmesh> 
I copied everything into /usr/local so I don't get what's going wrong.

Thanks

Ray

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
Like I suspected, the autoconfig creates the ic/Makefile with the wrong install order.
QUICK FIX:
Before you 'make install', edit $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/Makefile and change lines 371 and 372 so that SUBDIRS and DIST_SUBDIRS say "ieee754 m68k sparc stp22xx" (without the quotes), so that "ieee754" appears first, not second.
Then a 'make install' should just work without errors.

-Mark


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
Excellent! I'll probably go look in the main Makefile and correct the ieee754 library install to happen earlier on, to avoid this error.

Have fun,
Mark


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
It worked like a charm.  Thanks.  Now the fun begins!

Thanks again,

Ray

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
Oddly enough, I did have that happen on one install but not another. Try this:

cd $HOME/tme/tme-0.8/ic/ieee754
make install

...and if that works, try 'make install' again from the main tme-0.8 directory.
I suspect some things in the install might be occurring out of order.

-Mark



On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Ray Jewhurst <raywjewhurst at gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,
I followed your instructions to a "T" and it built fine but I got the following errors on the install.

/usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-ld: cannot find -ltme-ieee754
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
libtool: install: error: relink `tme_ic_m68k.la' with the above command before installing it
Makefile:312: recipe for target 'install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES' failed
make[4]: *** [install-pkglibLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'
Makefile:470: recipe for target 'install-am' failed
make[3]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'
Makefile:464: recipe for target 'install' failed
make[2]: *** [install] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic/m68k'
Makefile:612: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/ray/tme-0.8/ic'
Makefile:315: recipe for target 'install-recursive' failed
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

I also am also running Ubuntu 18.04.

Thanks in advance,

Ray

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com> wrote:
I posted this message yesterday, but for some reason people are telling me it never went to the list.
I removed the photos I originally attached and am sending it again.

-Mark

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mark Abene <phiber at phiber.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Sunlink DNA
To: hecnet at update.uu.se

To everyone who asked, I built TME last night on Ubuntu 18.04 on two different systems, and installed NetBSD 1.6.2 on a sun3/160 instance.
It's working very nicely, minus networking; bear in mind that TME was originally written to run on a NetBSD host (it's in the pkg collection), and makes use of BPF to implement networking (I seem to remember it also working on FreeBSD). Linux does have a bpf compatibility interface, so I'll see if it can be made to work and follow up with you all. That said, grab TME here: https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/tme-0.8.tar.gz
That's the home site, there's lots of info on the emulator https://people.csail.mit.edu/fredette/tme/
There's also this site, specifically about installing SunOS 4.1.1: http://www.abiyo.net/retrocomputing/installingsunos411tosun3emulatedintme08onlinux
DON'T follow those build instructions, they're incredibly old and will get you nowhere fast.  :)

Here are my steps:
Make sure you have the gtk-2.0 and glib2.0 dev packages installed. Then...
mkdir $HOME/tme
cd $HOME/tme
tar -zxvf your_download_dir/tme-0.8.tar.gz
cd tme-0.8
vi libtme/module.c (comment out line 93 "LTDL_SET_PRELOADED_SYMBOLS();", it's no longer needed) and save.
./configure --prefix=$HOME/tme --disable-warnings 'LIBS=-lglib-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lX11'
export LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/tme/lib (or "setenv LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH $HOME/tme/lib" for csh/tcsh)
make
make install

If everything built and installed without errors, you'll have the install tree in $HOME/tme. From here you can follow the various instructions on the original site above for installing NetBSD, etc.

If you ran into any errors either building, installing, or running, just drop me a note, I'd be happy to help!

P.S.: I've attached some photos of it booting up!
P.P.S: You'll notice it seg fault when you exit tmesh. The original does this too. The author even comments about how there's no "quit" command.

Regards,
Mark



On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:

  Thanks Mark!

       -Dave

On 09/18/2018 08:59 PM, Mark Abene wrote:
> Absolutely. I'll dig it out after dinner later tonight.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
> <mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 09/18/2018 08:12 PM, Mark Abene wrote:
>     > The TME emulator works fine on Ubuntu with very minor massaging. I don't
>     > recall having to do anything extremely out of the ordinary.
>     > For me the fun was in emulating a Sun 3/80 I used to have. If you like,
>     > I can dig it up my TME install. Haven't used it in a while.
> 
>       If you can find any notes that you my have taken on what it took to
>     get it running, I'd very much appreciate that.  I hacked on it for a bit
>     earlier this year, but ran out of time and eventually gave up.
> 
>                   -Dave
> 
>     -- 
>     Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
>     New Kensington, PA
> 
> 


-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA









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