[HECnet] Decnet on RSX-11

Sat Jun 8 05:13:34 PDT 2019

Kurt,
   As Johnny says you should read chapter 10 of [IP]README.DOC and run a NETGEN to add the IP HECnet device. I’ve attached a walk-through of a NETGEN that can help guide you but you should understand the information in chapter 10.

  You should have a unique DECnet node address for your system (from Johnny)  to use instead of the one I supplied in the walk-through. 

   Later when bringing up IP-0-0 in the [IPNET]INS.CMD I think you need a port # for attachment to MIM if that is where you are connecting to?

Best,
Mark

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> On Jun 8, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Kurt Hamm <kurt at hamm.me> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Johnny and thanks Mark. For some reason I thought that this was already done since IP was working. 
> 
> This is just what I needed to know to finish this thing off. I really appreciate the assistance.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 5:32 AM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> Kurt, Mark is absolutely right.
> 
> You do not have the IP line driver generated into DECnet.
> 
> This is what I suspect quite a few mails back between us, and tried to 
> point out.
> 
> And do not try to just edit CEMAC.MAC to add those lines Mark mention. 
> That will not work. You need to run through the DECnet generation 
> process, and then the IPNET postprocessing step. It's all in the TCP/IP 
> manual, if you read it.
> 
>    Johnny
> 
> On 2019-06-08 05:58, Mark Matlock wrote:
> > Kurt,
> >     I think you need to have the “IP" network device NETGENed into DECnet.
> > 
> >    The fact that you first error occurs at the NCP SET PROC IP TOP makes me think that DECnet does not have a driver for the IP device loaded. When I made the “Frodo” distribution available, I did a new SYSGEN for an 11/70 and also a NETGEN. In the NETGEN for the Unibus system a “UNA” was the ethernet device and on a Qbus system (the actual Frodo 30.1) a QNA device is used.
> > 
> >     It would be helpful if you typed out LB:[5,54]CETAB.MAC as it could confirm if the IP device has been NETGENed in or not. In CETAB.MAC the 3rd actual line of code should look like:
> > 
> > PDV$DF  <AUX,EVL,ECL,XPT,NCT,RTH,LAT,DLX>,<EPM>,<UNA,IP>
> > 
> > Three lines below that should be:
> > 
> > SLT$DF  IP,IP,XPT,LF.TIM,0,0,,0.,0.,15.
> > 
> >     It’s been a while since I added the IP-0-0 LIN and Circuits to my system, but I try to do that to one of my PiDP-11s and post the walk through for it.
> > 
> >     Below I’ve put some information of the sequence of startup command files that may help you understand the files involved.
> > 
> >    In the LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD of the Frodo distribution RSX and DECnet are started as is normal for any RSX. It then chains to LB:[1,2]INSPROG.CMD which brings up the DU1: disk that you either download from RSX11M.COM or the Simh boot.ini will make a blank one.
> > 
> >    At the end of the INSPROG.CMD two questions are asked with timeouts. The first will load LAT and the second loads Johnny’s TCP/IP. It loads the TCP/IP by chaining to LB:[IP]IPINS.CMD which will load TCP/IP and either DHCP an IP address or set a static IP address. At the end of that file then LB:[IP]IPAPPL.CMD is executed which sets up FTP, TELNET, NTP and other applications.
> > 
> >    Now, in the Frodo distribution IPAPPL.CMD, there is a line that was either commented or deleted that chains to LB:[IPNET]INSHECNET.CMD which is used to link the actual node Frodo (HECnet 30.1) to MIM
> > 
> >    Your [IPNET]INS.CMD looks identical to the INSHECNET.CMD on Frodo including the host port # which may be something we need to change?
> > 
> >    Do you have a HECnet address from Johnny? Also, where are you planning to connect to HECnet?
> > 
> > There is a [IPNET]INS.NEW which is the template that Johnny provides and it does not have a port specified on MIM. I don’t remember the exact mechanics on MIM That accepts connections but that may be a function of that port # Frodo connects to MIM on IP-0-10 but that is not specified on Frodo but on MIM.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:35 PM, Kurt Hamm <kurt at hamm.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, I added this command to the startup.cmd:   @LB:[IPNET]INS.CMD.
> >>
> >> I didn't modify the file yet.  I wanted to see what it would do
> >>
> >> The result after rebooting was this:
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCOM/UIC=[1,54]/PRO=[RW,RW,,]
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTNET
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCFG
> >>> NCP SET PROC IP TOP
> >> NCP -- Set failed, unrecognized component, Process
> >>> NCP SET LIN IP-0-* ALL
> >> NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Line
> >>> MNC SHO VER
> >> Initialize common
> >> NT.IP  not found. Exiting...
> >>> MNC SET CIR IP-0-0 TCA HOST MIM.UPDATE.UU.SE:7705 PORT 0
> >> Initialize common
> >> NT.IP  not found. Exiting...
> >>> NCP SET CIR IP-0-0 STA ON
> >> NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Circuit
> >>
> >> There are lots of errors, so I am not sure where to start.
> >>
> >> Any advice would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
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