[HECnet] Decnet on RSX-11

[Kurt Hamm]

Thanks Johnny and thanks Mark. For some reason I thought that this was
already done since IP was working.

This is just what I needed to know to finish this thing off. I really
appreciate the assistance.

Kurt

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 5:32 AM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:

> Kurt, Mark is absolutely right.
>
> You do not have the IP line driver generated into DECnet.
>
> This is what I suspect quite a few mails back between us, and tried to
> point out.
>
> And do not try to just edit CEMAC.MAC to add those lines Mark mention.
> That will not work. You need to run through the DECnet generation
> process, and then the IPNET postprocessing step. It's all in the TCP/IP
> manual, if you read it.
>
>    Johnny
>
> On 2019-06-08 05:58, Mark Matlock wrote:
> > Kurt,
> >     I think you need to have the “IP" network device NETGENed into
> DECnet.
> >
> >    The fact that you first error occurs at the NCP SET PROC IP TOP makes
> me think that DECnet does not have a driver for the IP device loaded. When
> I made the “Frodo” distribution available, I did a new SYSGEN for an 11/70
> and also a NETGEN. In the NETGEN for the Unibus system a “UNA” was the
> ethernet device and on a Qbus system (the actual Frodo 30.1) a QNA device
> is used.
> >
> >     It would be helpful if you typed out LB:[5,54]CETAB.MAC as it could
> confirm if the IP device has been NETGENed in or not. In CETAB.MAC the 3rd
> actual line of code should look like:
> >
> > PDV$DF  <AUX,EVL,ECL,XPT,NCT,RTH,LAT,DLX>,<EPM>,<UNA,IP>
> >
> > Three lines below that should be:
> >
> > SLT$DF  IP,IP,XPT,LF.TIM,0,0,,0.,0.,15.
> >
> >     It’s been a while since I added the IP-0-0 LIN and Circuits to my
> system, but I try to do that to one of my PiDP-11s and post the walk
> through for it.
> >
> >     Below I’ve put some information of the sequence of startup command
> files that may help you understand the files involved.
> >
> >    In the LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD of the Frodo distribution RSX and DECnet
> are started as is normal for any RSX. It then chains to LB:[1,2]INSPROG.CMD
> which brings up the DU1: disk that you either download from RSX11M.COM or
> the Simh boot.ini will make a blank one.
> >
> >    At the end of the INSPROG.CMD two questions are asked with timeouts.
> The first will load LAT and the second loads Johnny’s TCP/IP. It loads the
> TCP/IP by chaining to LB:[IP]IPINS.CMD which will load TCP/IP and either
> DHCP an IP address or set a static IP address. At the end of that file then
> LB:[IP]IPAPPL.CMD is executed which sets up FTP, TELNET, NTP and other
> applications.
> >
> >    Now, in the Frodo distribution IPAPPL.CMD, there is a line that was
> either commented or deleted that chains to LB:[IPNET]INSHECNET.CMD which is
> used to link the actual node Frodo (HECnet 30.1) to MIM
> >
> >    Your [IPNET]INS.CMD looks identical to the INSHECNET.CMD on Frodo
> including the host port # which may be something we need to change?
> >
> >    Do you have a HECnet address from Johnny? Also, where are you
> planning to connect to HECnet?
> >
> > There is a [IPNET]INS.NEW which is the template that Johnny provides and
> it does not have a port specified on MIM. I don’t remember the exact
> mechanics on MIM That accepts connections but that may be a function of
> that port # Frodo connects to MIM on IP-0-10 but that is not specified on
> Frodo but on MIM.
> >
> > Best,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:35 PM, Kurt Hamm <kurt at hamm.me> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, I added this command to the startup.cmd:   @LB:[IPNET]INS.CMD.
> >>
> >> I didn't modify the file yet.  I wanted to see what it would do
> >>
> >> The result after rebooting was this:
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCOM/UIC=[1,54]/PRO=[RW,RW,,]
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTNET
> >>> INS LB:[IPNET]MLTCFG
> >>> NCP SET PROC IP TOP
> >> NCP -- Set failed, unrecognized component, Process
> >>> NCP SET LIN IP-0-* ALL
> >> NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Line
> >>> MNC SHO VER
> >> Initialize common
> >> NT.IP  not found. Exiting...
> >>> MNC SET CIR IP-0-0 TCA HOST MIM.UPDATE.UU.SE:7705 PORT 0
> >> Initialize common
> >> NT.IP  not found. Exiting...
> >>> NCP SET CIR IP-0-0 STA ON
> >> NCP -- Set failed, invalid identification format, Circuit
> >>
> >> There are lots of errors, so I am not sure where to start.
> >>
> >> Any advice would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >
>
>
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                    ||  on a psychedelic trip
> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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