[HECnet] VMS/RSX Guest accounts

Thomas DeBellis tommytimesharing at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 20:25:28 PDT 2020


For VMS, for the moment I've gone with one of Bob's machines as that is 
on the 'local' DECnet area.  Perhaps I'll get better performance 
although Supratim is closer, milage-wise.  D.C. is about a 5 hour drive 
from here, while Bob's neck of the woods is a serious hike (Atlantic to 
Pacific).

On 4/22/20 11:14 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Well, the more the better, so get that VMS account. If you want to, I 
> can create an account for you on MIM as well. (But it will be 
> tomorrow, I need to go to bed...)
>
>   Johnny
>
> On 2020-04-23 05:12, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
>> Yes, but the MIM guest account is shared; I'm going to need to store 
>> a few files (captures, control files, Etc.)
>>
>> Wow, you've kept a real VAX running from 1993?  Good for you! I'll 
>> contact you off-list.
>>
>> On 4/22/20 11:07 PM, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>>>
>>> Thomas - MIM already has a guest account ... I have had fun sending 
>>> Johnny smtp emails to that account.
>>>
>>> I can give you an account on MARIAH (a real VAX) if you wish, shoot 
>>> me a note offline if you decide to follow up ...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Supratim
>>>
>>> On 4/22/20 10:49 PM, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
>>>> I've had my fill of FAL and DAP for the moment and have turned to 
>>>> some other things as sort of a 'break'.  The Tops-10 NFT client 
>>>> breaks on certain file names that the 20 sends it, so there is 
>>>> going to be some debugging to track that down.  Fortunately, a very 
>>>> patient person gave me PPN on one of their 10's.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, I'm working on bringing the Tops-20 mail system a bit 
>>>> more up to date with respect to DECnet communications. These were 
>>>> largely put aside when full Internet connectivity happened. Still, 
>>>> the PANDA distribution has some bit rot because I know that certain 
>>>> Columbia changes for DECnet (to support CCnet) are not there.  I 
>>>> can't imagine that we didn't send them to MRC; that would have been 
>>>> unthinkable.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately, I was able to remember enough to put some of them back 
>>>> so that I got SMTP over DECnet working well, again.  It had been 
>>>> suffering from about two minute timing delays and now it's 
>>>> instantaneous between 20's, like I remember.   Oddly enough, I 
>>>> don't remember what else ran SMTP over DECnet; I'm certain that RSX 
>>>> and VMS could have done it.  I think some VMS site might have.
>>>>
>>>> However, most non-SMTP DECnet hosts on CCnet were running Mail-11, 
>>>> which the 20 also groks.  In fact, it can convert Mail-11 addresses 
>>>> to SMTP and route over other transports such as PUP, Chaos and 
>>>> TCP/IP as well as DECnet.  We did a lot of mail routing for CCnet 
>>>> to the Internet on CU20B, back in the day.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, there is some bit rot in some of the Tops-20 Mail-11 
>>>> code, so I've got some tinkering to do.  Does anyone have a VMS or 
>>>> RSX system that they'd care to give me a guest account on?  It 
>>>> doesn't need any special capabilities; I'm just going to be sending 
>>>> mail and looking a few raw headers over.
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT
>>> 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W
>>> QCOCAL::SANYAL via HECnet
>
>


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