[HECnet] VMS/RSX Guest accounts

Dave McGuire mcguire at neurotica.com
Wed Apr 22 20:28:11 PDT 2020



  Hey, I'm 5hrs from DC, where are you based Tom?

             -Dave

On 4/22/20 11:25 PM, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
> For VMS, for the moment I've gone with one of Bob's machines as that is
> on the 'local' DECnet area.  Perhaps I'll get better performance
> although Supratim is closer, milage-wise.  D.C. is about a 5 hour drive
> from here, while Bob's neck of the woods is a serious hike (Atlantic to
> Pacific).
> 
> On 4/22/20 11:14 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> Well, the more the better, so get that VMS account. If you want to, I
>> can create an account for you on MIM as well. (But it will be
>> tomorrow, I need to go to bed...)
>>
>>   Johnny
>>
>> On 2020-04-23 05:12, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
>>> Yes, but the MIM guest account is shared; I'm going to need to store
>>> a few files (captures, control files, Etc.)
>>>
>>> Wow, you've kept a real VAX running from 1993?  Good for you! I'll
>>> contact you off-list.
>>>
>>> On 4/22/20 11:07 PM, Supratim Sanyal wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thomas - MIM already has a guest account ... I have had fun sending
>>>> Johnny smtp emails to that account.
>>>>
>>>> I can give you an account on MARIAH (a real VAX) if you wish, shoot
>>>> me a note offline if you decide to follow up ...
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Supratim
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/20 10:49 PM, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
>>>>> I've had my fill of FAL and DAP for the moment and have turned to
>>>>> some other things as sort of a 'break'.  The Tops-10 NFT client
>>>>> breaks on certain file names that the 20 sends it, so there is
>>>>> going to be some debugging to track that down.  Fortunately, a very
>>>>> patient person gave me PPN on one of their 10's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I'm working on bringing the Tops-20 mail system a bit
>>>>> more up to date with respect to DECnet communications. These were
>>>>> largely put aside when full Internet connectivity happened. Still,
>>>>> the PANDA distribution has some bit rot because I know that certain
>>>>> Columbia changes for DECnet (to support CCnet) are not there.  I
>>>>> can't imagine that we didn't send them to MRC; that would have been
>>>>> unthinkable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately, I was able to remember enough to put some of them back
>>>>> so that I got SMTP over DECnet working well, again.  It had been
>>>>> suffering from about two minute timing delays and now it's
>>>>> instantaneous between 20's, like I remember.   Oddly enough, I
>>>>> don't remember what else ran SMTP over DECnet; I'm certain that RSX
>>>>> and VMS could have done it.  I think some VMS site might have.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, most non-SMTP DECnet hosts on CCnet were running Mail-11,
>>>>> which the 20 also groks.  In fact, it can convert Mail-11 addresses
>>>>> to SMTP and route over other transports such as PUP, Chaos and
>>>>> TCP/IP as well as DECnet.  We did a lot of mail routing for CCnet
>>>>> to the Internet on CU20B, back in the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, there is some bit rot in some of the Tops-20 Mail-11
>>>>> code, so I've got some tinkering to do.  Does anyone have a VMS or
>>>>> RSX system that they'd care to give me a guest account on?  It
>>>>> doesn't need any special capabilities; I'm just going to be sending
>>>>> mail and looking a few raw headers over.
>>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Supratim Sanyal, W1XMT
>>>> 39.19151 N, 77.23432 W
>>>> QCOCAL::SANYAL via HECnet
>>
>>


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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


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