[HECnet] VMS/RSX Guest accounts
Dave McGuire
mcguire at neurotica.com
Thu Apr 23 21:12:55 PDT 2020
On 4/23/20 6:15 PM, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
> Sir, I stand *corrected* and do humbly admit my errors. I didn't see
> anything Orange on the mac.io website, so I just assumed... I didn't go
> to the Facebook site because I won't have a thing to do with their
> policies, stated or covert.
I don't blame you about Facebook.
The website covers a tiny fraction of the hardware at the museum. We
don't want to to be all-inclusive because of the risk of it essentially
replacing in-person visits. The idea is to whet the appetite, get you
drooling, and get you on a plane.
It has worked well so far.
> A memory surfaced and I realized that I was also completely wrong about
> the 2020's networking capabilities, too. In 1979, DEC's Federal Systems
> group had a 2020 on the ARPAnet and I used it to send email to some of
> my pals at MIT LCS when I working 2nd and 3rd shift. So the hardware
> existed to communicate with an IMP and MIT used it implement TCP/IP on
> ITS. This is simulated by the KLH10 2020 implementation and that's how
> ITS communicates today.
There's a very interesting Symbolics board in the Unibus of one of
our KSs. It used to be ML.AI.MIT.EDU. It's not quite operational, but
it's close.
Speaking of whetting appetites. B-)
> Federal Systems was a real hike from manufacturing in Marlboro where I
> used to hang out; three buildings away. It was also notable for having
> mil-spec VT100's. Instead of plastic, they were made out of very thick
> metal, I think maybe machined aluminum. The cables where sheathed in
> metal and the connectors were substantially enlarged and strengthened.
> The display glass also had a dense metal screen in front of it. They
> really looked like they could withstand a hand grenade and weighed a
> ton... Well that's what I thought at the time, another alternative that
> didn't occur to me until decades later was that all this just could have
> been RF shielding.
Ahh nice, sounds like Tempest-100s or RT100s. Don't drop that on your
foot.
> The solution for 4.1 was one of the finest hacks I have ever heard of;
> while the 2020 doesn't support extended addressing, it does support
> multiple address spaces, so what they did was move all the symbols into
> a separate address space. This was called 'hiding' symbols and I
> thought it was great because it made them harder to smash. However, all
> of that went out the window with 5.0, which fully supported extended
> addressing.
Nice!
One of our 2020s is in the brown color scheme. You know what that
means: ADP, and one more address bit.
> You know, I have been out to Pittsburgh a few times. In the 1980's,
> Columbia flew me out there so that I could learn about CMU's
> modifications to LPTSPL to support the nearly entirely awesome Xerox
> 9700. I was out there again about a year ago for a conference. Still,
> that's a real hike... My relatives live in near Elizabethtown, not
> quite spitting distance from three mile island (!!), so that's another
> four hours to New Kensington after they're done with me. Ouch... Oh
> well, never say 'never'...
Not quite four hours (unless you drive like Grandpa) and we're right
off of the PA turnpike, the Allegheny Valley exit.
> That's some pretty good swag you have by the way; minor suggestion, in
> addition to the anti-VAXer T-shirt, you might want to have another one
> that says the somewhat subtle, "If it doesn't have 36 Bits, it isn't a
> Digital computer". I did know some people who were so anti-VAX that
> they positively would froth at the mouth. I could understand the
> frothing, given what happened, but still, one prefers not wear one's
> froth on their sleeve. It would have been a lot better for everybody
> had there been more and better communication and less NIH.
Thanks! That quote (well, similar) is sometimes attributed to my
friend and former long-time boss Doug Humphrey, thought I don't know if
it was originally his. Maybe Peter will remember.
I only wear the froth of others on my sleeve.
I'll have that quote added to the swag list very soon, and will let
you know.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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