[HECnet] DECnet-10 doesn't work past Nov 9 2021?

Jason Brady jr_brady at fastmail.com
Sun Dec 27 17:17:08 PST 2020


Ah...here are the test system (HERMES) operator log messages (notice the 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21 timestamp):

$ START /NETWORK DECNET
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-DEC-2022 16:41:31.22  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on HERMES
DECnet starting

%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000125
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM_NOSOFTID has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of MOM$SYSTEM_SOFTID has been superseded
%NCP-I-NOINFO, No information in database
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000127
$
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-DEC-2022 16:41:36.76  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on HERMES
DECnet event 4.10, circuit up
>From node 2.404 (HERMES), 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21
Circuit EWA-0

$
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-DEC-2022 16:41:41.87  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on HERMES
DECnet event 4.15, adjacency up
>From node 2.404 (HERMES), 31-JAN-1977 00:00:06.21
Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node = 2.400 (APOLLO)

And from APOLLO adjacent node (down/up when DECnet cycled):

APOLLO->
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-DEC-2020 16:31:27.60  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on APOLLO
DECnet event 4.18, adjacency down
>From node 2.400 (APOLLO), 27-DEC-2020 16:31:27.59
Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node listener receive timeout
Adjacent node = 2.404 (HERMES)

APOLLO->
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-DEC-2020 16:42:33.54  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on APOLLO
DECnet event 4.15, adjacency up
>From node 2.400 (APOLLO), 27-DEC-2020 16:42:33.54
Circuit EWA-0, Adjacent node = 2.404 (HERMES)


On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> That doesn't fully answer the question.  What you see is the system log, which presumably uses VMS time stamps.  Those have a wide range.  The question is what the DECnet events would show, when encoded in the NICE protocol.  If you configure it to send events (like node reachable or circuit up) to another node, what do the timestamps look like on that other node?
> 
> paul
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Jason Brady <jr_brady at fastmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Booted test Alpha system running OpenVMS 8.4 and set the date to 27-DEC-2022. Started DECnet Phase IV. No errors.
>> 
>> From node APOLLO, no problem transferring files from the test system and displaying network info (TELL ... SHOW EXEC, etc.).
>> 
>> Snippet from test system NML$SERVER.LOG:
>> 
>>         --------------------------------------------------------
>>         Connect request received at 27-DEC-2022 16:29:25.54
>>             from remote process APOLLO::"0=JASON"
>>             for object "SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]NML.EXE"
>>         --------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Snippet from test system FAL$SERVER.LOG:
>> 
>>         --------------------------------------------------------
>>         Connect request received at 27-DEC-2022 16:26:56.85
>>             from remote process APOLLO::"0=JASON"
>>             for object "SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]FAL.EXE"
>>         --------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Is the above satisfactory, at least for OpenVMS Alpha? 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Robert Armstrong wrote:
>>> > John Forecast wrote:
>>> >DECnet event logging for any system may fail after Nov 9th 2021. 
>>> 
>>>   Oh, that's a much bigger deal!  Do you happen to know if VMS handles this field as unsigned??  A lot of people here are going to be bummed if VMS quits working next fall...
>>> 
>>> Bob
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