[HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

[Thomas DeBellis]

SCO might be another example of what I was talking about.  They were 
getting blown out of the water by Linux and other vendors and were 
behind in functionality in a number of areas.  So maybe they went after 
the big money (I.E., IBM) to address the cash crunch so they could fund 
resources to bring the product up to date.

Lawyers do what lawyers do, which typically isn't coding.  SCO needed 
both cash and coding, but I think they picked the wrong target.  IBM's 
lawyers are, well, legendary.

On 3/7/20 2:29 PM, Keith Halewood wrote:
>
> I wonder how long it’ll be before VSI goes the way of SCO and 
> eventually owned mostly by lawyers who persuaded the executives that 
> hounding the hobbyists was the most profitable thing to do….
>
> *From:*owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] 
> *On Behalf Of *Bill Cunningham
> *Sent:* 07 March 2020 19:27
> *To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> *Subject:* Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing
>
> It sounds like  a real shame. A lot of programmers have developed some 
> much for openvms, and now they are just going to stop it. To bring VMS 
> up to date so to speak; that would be "artistic" ownership under 
> federal law. A wall owner was just sued over tearing down his wall 
> that graffiti artists drew on. It's not all just HP here.
>
> On 3/7/2020 1:58 PM, William Pechter wrote:
>
>     The cost of a VMS Vax license would probably be more than a
>     license for later hardware and the hardware.
>
>     There's been no bug fixes to the last Vax versions and if you get
>     the Vax license - - if offered - - the ability to keep the HW
>     running gets harder yearly.
>
>     A multi thousand dollar/yr license to run on  Simh would suck. 
>     $50/Yr might be doable for a hobby.  Perhaps someone could propose
>     something so VSI could offset costs.
>
>     Bill
>
>     Sent from pechter at gmail.com <mailto:pechter at gmail.com>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Bill Cunningham <bill.cu at suddenlink.net>
>     <mailto:bill.cu at suddenlink.net>
>     To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>     Sent: Sat, 07 Mar 2020 13:50
>     Subject: Re: [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing
>
>     I have received t too. They say ifyou want long term licenses, buy
>     it! dig out the coins.
>
>     On 3/7/2020 2:12 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote:
>
>         Yes, I have received it too. I think this is just corporate
>         speak for saying that they are closing the hobbyist licensing
>         program, presumably because they no longer support VMS. I
>         think they should officially release the PAK tool, or allow
>         hobbyists to request non-expiring licenses (although that
>         wouldn’t help new hobbyists).
>
>         Regards
>
>         Rob
>
>         *From:*owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>         <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> <owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>         <mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> *On Behalf Of *David Moylan
>         *Sent:* 07 March 2020 05:14
>         *To:* hecnet at Update.UU.SE <mailto:hecnet at Update.UU.SE>
>         *Subject:* [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is
>         closing
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         Just received the e-mail below. I’ve hunted around all the
>         various Hobbyist locations and licensing pages and can’t find
>         any additional information.
>
>         I’ve already replied back to ask what the impact of Hobbyist
>         renewal licensing will be. I have no further information at
>         this stage.
>
>         Have others received this as well? Does anyone have any
>         further knowledge on this?
>
>         I can see a few people have forwarded/posted the same message
>         on comp.os.vms.
>
>         Cheers, Wiz!!
>
>         *From:*OpenVMS Customer Lab [mailto:openvmscustomerlab at hpe.com]
>         *Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 3:13 PM
>         *Cc:* OpenVMS Customer Lab
>         *Subject:* OpenVMS Hobbyist Notification
>
>         Dear HPE OpenVMS hobbyist,
>
>         This is to inform you that HPE is concluding the HPE OpenVMS
>         Hobbyist license program in alignment with the HPE OpenVMS
>         support roadmap.
>
>         If you wish to understand more details, please reach out to us
>         at the earliest through the usual license renewal webpage.
>
>         Thank you.
>
>         HPE OpenVMS team
>
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