[HECnet] [PiDP-11] Re: Announcing RPM, a software packet manager for RSX-11M-PLUS --> Tcp/Ip?

[Lee Gleason]

   Great work  - sure makes things easier.

   I don't see the TCP/IP choice on RPM LIST  - have you made it "live" yet?

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On 5/31/2020 10:41 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Yes, this do simplify things even more.
>
> All you need to do is a one time install of whatever package you want. 
> Then maintenance of an RSX system is essentially just a question of 
> "RPM ALL". However, a possible additional complication is that if 
> TCP/IP have been updated, you will want to do a reboot. So you need to 
> somehow detect if that happened. I have some ideas on how you could 
> check for that after updating, so that it can all be a bit more 
> automated, but for a start, the simple "RPM ALL" is essentially doing 
> almost all the work for you.
>
>   Johnny
>
> On 2020-05-31 17:05, Mark Matlock wrote:
>> Johnny,
>>     This is a very interesting development!! As someone who is 
>> updating about 6 RSX systems with your TCP/IP system on a roughly 
>> weekly basis this is of keen interest to me. I like the idea of 
>> keeping the IPCONFIG separate from RPM since the network 
>> configuration can be so customized especially with the HECnet over IP 
>> capabilities.
>>
>>     This is really a revolutionary way to handle RSX software 
>> installation and maintenance!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>>> On May 31, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok. Thanks for inspiring me.
>>>
>>> I now also have TCP/IP as a package under RPM.
>>>
>>> A couple of comments about it are in place:
>>>
>>> 1) It's *big* You'll need atleast about 25.000 free blocks to 
>>> install or update. So nothing for anyone with an RL02 as the system 
>>> disk.
>>>
>>> 2) It will do the install/update, but it will not start TCP/IP. You 
>>> will still need the separate scripts for TCP/IP in 
>>> LB:[1,2]STARTUP.CMD in order to start the whole thing. RPM can only 
>>> be used for the updating of the system.
>>>
>>> 3) Because of some issues, RPM will also not be able to 
>>> automatically handle any updates to your IP configuration as such. 
>>> So after doing an update of TCP/IP, you might want to do that by 
>>> hand, which is done by running "LB:[IP]IPCONFIG UPD". If you are 
>>> downloading the distribution itself, things runs just like before.
>>>
>>> 4) Depending on your internet connection, updating this package 
>>> might take a little while. I have also observed some issues with 
>>> some sneaky FTP proxy interfering with FTP transfers from MIM. If 
>>> you are getting errors and timeouts doing transfers over FTP, try 
>>> changing the source to be mim.update.uu.se:10021 instead.
>>>
>>>   Johnny
>>>
>>> On 2020-05-31 10:04, R. Voorhorst wrote:
>>>> Nice functionality to arrive so easily at a well-kept updated 
>>>> environment!
>>>> Big question now obviously appearing:  will TCP/IP follow suit or 
>>>> is that not so suitable concerning the host machine?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Reindert
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2020 02:24
>>>> To: Mark Matlock <mark at matlockfamily.com>; hecnet at update.uu.se
>>>> Cc: Info-PDP11 at dbit.com; SIMH <simh at trailing-edge.com>; [PiDP-11] 
>>>> <pidp-11 at googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PiDP-11] Re: [HECnet] Announcing RPM, a software 
>>>> packet manager for RSX-11M-PLUS
>>>> On 2020-05-30 22:04, Mark Matlock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 30, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I'm on a roll today, I figure I should announce the 
>>>>>> availability of a new tool for RSX, which I think most hobbyists 
>>>>>> will find rather useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RPM is a packet manager for RSX (it has nothing to do with the 
>>>>>> Red Hat Packet Manager, except the name).
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny,
>>>>>       I love not only the new RPM software repository tool but 
>>>>> also all the updated software tools. A few of the software 
>>>>> packages that RPM listed were even new to me!
>>>> You're welcome. And have have *lots* of more software. It will just 
>>>> take a lot of time to work through it all and create packages for it.
>>>>>       Also, I was behind in getting the latest versions of your 
>>>>> NEMA, MKE and several others. This will make it very easy to stay 
>>>>> current.
>>>> Similar problem to my own... What version did I now have on that 
>>>> machine? Did I do any updates since I last installed there? What 
>>>> software do I actually have? And where is it...?
>>>>>      Thanks for this and also thanks for the latest version of 
>>>>> your TCP/IP system.
>>>> Happy to provide it. And it looks like it has already seen some 
>>>> action, based on the ftp logs at MIM... :-)
>>>>     Johnny
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>>                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
>>> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
>>> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
>>
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