[HECnet] PyDECnet setup

Dave McGuire mcguire at neurotica.com
Thu Nov 18 09:20:13 PST 2021


On 11/18/21 12:12 PM, Thomas DeBellis wrote:
> They do it _today_.

   Well, since the last release of SunOS (not Solaris) was in 1994, and 
the last release of Ultrix was in 1995..

   The first release of SunOS that I ran was 3.5 (1988-89?), which did 
it.  The first release of Ultrix that I ran was 3.0 (1990 maybe?), which 
did it too.

> I can't remember what I did in 1986, honest.  Of course I've changed 
> /etc/inetd.conf when I put up new services.  And I can't for the life of 
> me remember what I did to poke a re-parse.

   You sent a SIGHUP.  I promise. :)

> If it was a SIGHUP, then I probably thought that odd.  Now I'm 
> dissatisfied with the term Unix 'standards' because they are until they 
> aren't,

   ...like anything else...

> also depending on what implementation you happen to find 
> yourself trying to execute on.  And if it needed to change, why exactly 
> did the old interface need to get ditched, really?  Now I have a bunch 
> of scripts to rewrite.  For what?

   I've run UNIX all day, every day, on at any one time anywhere from a 
dozen to several thousand systems from a dozen vendors, for 37 years.  I 
have *never* been burned by what you're describing.  Not once.

   What I HAVE dealt with is scripts I'd written being rendered obsolete 
by vendors introducing functionality in subsequent OS releases that 
solved the problem that I'd solved with my script.  And honestly I'm ok 
with that.

> I think you can get burnt whether it's a bunch of academics eternally 
> discussing purity in committees or a couple of kids just picking something.

   Very true.  The only way to truly protect yourself is to have the 
source code and revert any poor decisions that they make.  Oh, wait, we 
can do that!

            -Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


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