[HECnet] *** Very important information ***

[Johnny Billquist]

Hi. Have not set the bridge side up yet. Will do so now.
I needed someone to test it with. :-)

   Johnny

On 2021-11-22 21:56, Rob Jarratt wrote:
> Hello Johnny,
> 
> I have reconfigured my router to point at the new bridge at HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET:4711. Would that be right?
> 
> I am having some trouble with my logging right now and I can't see the logging, but it doesn't seem to be working. Have you got my entry in your new bridge?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Rob
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> On
>> Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
>> Sent: 21 November 2021 23:25
>> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
>> Cc: admin at update.uu.se; Björn Victor <bjorn at victor.se>
>> Subject: [HECnet] *** Very important information ***
>>
>> Hi, all. This mail contains some very important information that affects a fair
>> number of people and services on HECnet. So please read through it, and if
>> you need to take action, please do this in a timely manner.
>> I'm here to help with whatever, but I can only work on things from my end of
>> things.
>>
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> Update is a computer club at Uppsala University. As such, it has enjoyed a lot
>> of support from the University over a long time. However, recent
>> development have now led us to a point where the University is no longer
>> willing to support Update.
>> The main way the support have been provided is through a computer room
>> where machines have been running, electricity, and network connectivity.
>>
>> All of this is now going away. Basically, and the end of this year, Update will
>> have to have moved out of their current location.
>>
>> This means that any machine Update currently have running will need to
>> move. Update have found a location of their own that they now started to
>> rent, and most things will be moving in a few weeks from now. There are also
>> unfortunately a need to reduce the size of Update's collection of hardware
>> since the size of the collection is just too big for Update to afford to keep.
>> You might hear more on that separately, but I'm not going to go into that any
>> further than saying that Magica and other large iron is currently safe, and will
>> be moved. But it's going to be difficult to run these machines for the time
>> being.
>>
>>
>> Primary effects:
>>
>> Mim.Update.UU.SE, Psilo.Update.UU.SE and any other resources used by
>> HECnet will go offline. I'm not sure about the exact date, but expect this to
>> happen in a couple of weeks from now.
>>
>> This means any Multinet links to MIM will go down, and will not come back
>> up. Any bridge connections to Psilo will also go away.
>> Also, the HECnet mailing list will stop working.
>>
>> Update is working on getting services back up and running in their new
>> location, but exactly in which form we are able to is unclear, and it is also
>> unclear what network capacity there will be, or when anything will be back.
>>
>>
>> Changes happening on HECnet:
>>
>> Because of the things mentioned above, there is a plan in place to keep
>> HECnet up and running. Thanks to Peter Lothberg, a lot of functions and
>> services currently at Update will move to Stupi.
>>
>> MIM:: (Mim.Update.UU.SE) has already moved to Stupi, and is now known
>> as Mim.Stupi.NET. Still the same nodename on HECnet.
>> The old Mim (Mim.Update.UU.SE) is still up for the time being, as XMIM::
>>
>> Any Multinet links to Mim.Update.UU.SE are going to have to move. There
>> will be two alternatives:
>>
>> . HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET is a PyDECnet router which I intend to be a major
>> hub for HECnet. Located in Stockholm with good network capacity.
>>
>> . Mim.Stupi.NET, which is just the same machine, and can accept the same
>> links.
>>
>>
>> Any bridge connection to Psilo.Update.UU.SE are going to have to move.
>> There is one alternative:
>>
>> . HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET. Same router that takes Multinet links. As
>> mentioned above, I aim for this to be a major hub going forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> XMIM:: will be around for a few weeks, but will go down in the not
>> distant future. All current Multinet bridges to it will have to migrate
>> in order to keep working. Else those links will soon stop.
>>
>>
>> MIM:: will continue service HECnet with the nodename database, just like
>> before. It also will continue to act as a mail gateway for anyone using
>> that feature. Mail from inside HECnet to the Internet will continue to
>> be handled as MIM::<user at internet.host>
>> Mail from Internet to HECnet will need to be addressed as
>> <node>::<user>@Mim.Stupi.Net
>>
>> Web services at Mim will continue as well, but obviously at
>> Mim.Stupi.NET. Same with ftp, rpm, and all other things.
>>
>>
>> In order to reduce the number of issues that might pop up, I am going to
>> try and get Mim.Update.UU.SE setup as a CNAME to Mim.Stupi.NET, so that
>> most things will continue to work even using the old hostname, but there
>> might be hiccups here. Be aware.
>>
>>
>> The mailing list I'm still looking into how to handle. I'll get back on
>> that soon.
>>
>>
>> Next steps:
>>
>> I want that people have have links to Update to contact me, and we can
>> move the links over to new endpoints. Keep in mind that I might take a
>> day or two to respond to each individual. But I'll try to move fast as I
>> don't know when things will stop operating in the current setup.
>>
>> Also, any issues, problems, funny stuff, or whatever, please reach out
>> to me. I'm also going to keep an eye open for routing becoming odd in
>> the face of things here, and will poke people when I see things that
>> just look wrong.
>> Of course, I have no insight into any Cisco equipment, so there I will
>> just have to hope and trust that each person running such gear have
>> things set up in a reasonable way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, that's about all I can think of right now.
>> Now you all know what is happening, and anyone having links to Update
>> will need to take action. Anyone using other services from machines at
>> Update might also see problems as this all happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> And once more, many thanks to Peter Lothberg, who have been very helpful
>> in finding a solution to this problem.
>>
>> (And yes, I wish Uppsala University had done things differently, but
>> that is not anything I am in any position to affect, or make much
>> comments on.)
>>
>>     Johnny
>>
>> --
>> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>>                                     ||  on a psychedelic trip
>> email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
>> pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
> 

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol