[HECnet] *** Very important information ***

[Rob Jarratt]

Hello Johnny,

I have reconfigured my router to point at the new bridge at HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET:4711. Would that be right?

I am having some trouble with my logging right now and I can't see the logging, but it doesn't seem to be working. Have you got my entry in your new bridge?

Thanks

Rob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> On
> Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
> Sent: 21 November 2021 23:25
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Cc: admin at update.uu.se; Björn Victor <bjorn at victor.se>
> Subject: [HECnet] *** Very important information ***
> 
> Hi, all. This mail contains some very important information that affects a fair
> number of people and services on HECnet. So please read through it, and if
> you need to take action, please do this in a timely manner.
> I'm here to help with whatever, but I can only work on things from my end of
> things.
> 
> 
> Background:
> 
> Update is a computer club at Uppsala University. As such, it has enjoyed a lot
> of support from the University over a long time. However, recent
> development have now led us to a point where the University is no longer
> willing to support Update.
> The main way the support have been provided is through a computer room
> where machines have been running, electricity, and network connectivity.
> 
> All of this is now going away. Basically, and the end of this year, Update will
> have to have moved out of their current location.
> 
> This means that any machine Update currently have running will need to
> move. Update have found a location of their own that they now started to
> rent, and most things will be moving in a few weeks from now. There are also
> unfortunately a need to reduce the size of Update's collection of hardware
> since the size of the collection is just too big for Update to afford to keep.
> You might hear more on that separately, but I'm not going to go into that any
> further than saying that Magica and other large iron is currently safe, and will
> be moved. But it's going to be difficult to run these machines for the time
> being.
> 
> 
> Primary effects:
> 
> Mim.Update.UU.SE, Psilo.Update.UU.SE and any other resources used by
> HECnet will go offline. I'm not sure about the exact date, but expect this to
> happen in a couple of weeks from now.
> 
> This means any Multinet links to MIM will go down, and will not come back
> up. Any bridge connections to Psilo will also go away.
> Also, the HECnet mailing list will stop working.
> 
> Update is working on getting services back up and running in their new
> location, but exactly in which form we are able to is unclear, and it is also
> unclear what network capacity there will be, or when anything will be back.
> 
> 
> Changes happening on HECnet:
> 
> Because of the things mentioned above, there is a plan in place to keep
> HECnet up and running. Thanks to Peter Lothberg, a lot of functions and
> services currently at Update will move to Stupi.
> 
> MIM:: (Mim.Update.UU.SE) has already moved to Stupi, and is now known
> as Mim.Stupi.NET. Still the same nodename on HECnet.
> The old Mim (Mim.Update.UU.SE) is still up for the time being, as XMIM::
> 
> Any Multinet links to Mim.Update.UU.SE are going to have to move. There
> will be two alternatives:
> 
> . HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET is a PyDECnet router which I intend to be a major
> hub for HECnet. Located in Stockholm with good network capacity.
> 
> . Mim.Stupi.NET, which is just the same machine, and can accept the same
> links.
> 
> 
> Any bridge connection to Psilo.Update.UU.SE are going to have to move.
> There is one alternative:
> 
> . HECnet-1-1023.Stupi.NET. Same router that takes Multinet links. As
> mentioned above, I aim for this to be a major hub going forward.
> 
> 
> 
> XMIM:: will be around for a few weeks, but will go down in the not
> distant future. All current Multinet bridges to it will have to migrate
> in order to keep working. Else those links will soon stop.
> 
> 
> MIM:: will continue service HECnet with the nodename database, just like
> before. It also will continue to act as a mail gateway for anyone using
> that feature. Mail from inside HECnet to the Internet will continue to
> be handled as MIM::<user at internet.host>
> Mail from Internet to HECnet will need to be addressed as
> <node>::<user>@Mim.Stupi.Net
> 
> Web services at Mim will continue as well, but obviously at
> Mim.Stupi.NET. Same with ftp, rpm, and all other things.
> 
> 
> In order to reduce the number of issues that might pop up, I am going to
> try and get Mim.Update.UU.SE setup as a CNAME to Mim.Stupi.NET, so that
> most things will continue to work even using the old hostname, but there
> might be hiccups here. Be aware.
> 
> 
> The mailing list I'm still looking into how to handle. I'll get back on
> that soon.
> 
> 
> Next steps:
> 
> I want that people have have links to Update to contact me, and we can
> move the links over to new endpoints. Keep in mind that I might take a
> day or two to respond to each individual. But I'll try to move fast as I
> don't know when things will stop operating in the current setup.
> 
> Also, any issues, problems, funny stuff, or whatever, please reach out
> to me. I'm also going to keep an eye open for routing becoming odd in
> the face of things here, and will poke people when I see things that
> just look wrong.
> Of course, I have no insight into any Cisco equipment, so there I will
> just have to hope and trust that each person running such gear have
> things set up in a reasonable way.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, that's about all I can think of right now.
> Now you all know what is happening, and anyone having links to Update
> will need to take action. Anyone using other services from machines at
> Update might also see problems as this all happens.
> 
> 
> 
> And once more, many thanks to Peter Lothberg, who have been very helpful
> in finding a solution to this problem.
> 
> (And yes, I wish Uppsala University had done things differently, but
> that is not anything I am in any position to affect, or make much
> comments on.)
> 
>    Johnny
> 
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                    ||  on a psychedelic trip
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