[HECnet] A2RTR downtime

Thomas DeBellis tommytimesharing at gmail.com
Tue Oct 19 15:29:16 PDT 2021


Thanks, I'll go have a look.

I was thinking about the duplicity utility, but I didn't feel like 
learning it or relearning tar and friends.  Really, the only time I want 
to be bothered with Linux is either when somebody pays me to look at it 
or I need to fix (or enhance) something in KLH10.

What I would be doing would be backing up everything _except_ the 
Tops-20 disks.  The two reasons for that is that a native backup gets 
you a consistent save set as opposed to a bit being in the wrong place 
in the file system when grabbing data from the 'raw' disk.  Further, it 
enables me to find and fix bugs with the Tops-20 Backup/Archive utility 
(DUMPER), fixing Tops-20 bugs being my odd idea of fun.

Right now, I've encountered the situation that previous versions of save 
sets appear to always set the SECURE bit, which is not something you want.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On 10/18/21 11:53 AM, Zane Healy wrote:
>
> Take a look at Veeam, specifically the “Community Edition”.  You 
> should also be able to take a look at the "Veeam Agent for Linux”, as 
> you can simply run it on your Linux box, and point it at an NFS share 
> or USB disk.  The community edition of Veeam Backup and Recovery 
> allows you to backup 10 Physical or Virtual systems for free.  It’s 
> only downside is that it needs to run on Windows.
>
> I do nightly Veeam backups of all the VMware VM’s that run my virtual 
> DEC systems.  This has saved me in at least one case.
>
> Bare metal Veeam restores are an option, since you asked about “Bare 
> Metal”, but that’s something I’ve not tested.
>
> Zane
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On Oct 17, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Thomas DeBellis 
>> <tommytimesharing at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> *Fourth*(and final) concerns RAID in an indirect way.  My Tops-20 
>> systems are backed up on a quarterly basis and those backups 
>> compressed and moved to alternate storage.  However, I have never 
>> backed up any of the Ubuntu systems and, although I am running SSD 
>> media, some of this is quite old and I'm starting to feel 
>> uncomfortable out it.
>>
>> Were you aware of any winning backup solutions?  I can restore 
>> Tops-20 to bare metal, but I really don't remember how to do this for 
>> Unix (although I did know it for Ultrix at one point).  So I starting 
>> looking.  Déjà Dup looks like it won't quite do what I need, but 
>> since it uses duplicity, I started looking at that.
>>
>> Remember, even a RAID is no substitute for backup.  This was probably 
>> more true in the days where a hardware RAID controller error 
>> introduced a single point of failure; it may still be true for a 
>> software RAID.
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