[Pollinator] [beemonitoring] Propylene glycol and cats

Thu Apr 7 02:42:50 PDT 2011

We had no evidence of any animal drinking the material from around the 
country.  Additionally, I had a whole series of traps in my yard with a 
dog and cat that both eat all sorts of disgusting things and they 
completely ignored the traps which were right at convenient drinking 
height.

PG is used commonly by vets for lubricating pills for dogs and reaching 
inside of large animals....(but apparently not reaching inside of cats). 
Vet supply houses are good places to buy gallon stocks of pure PG.

sam

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From:
Leo Shapiro <leoshapiro99 at gmail.com>
To:
Jil_Swearingen at nps.gov
Cc:
Scott_Bates at nps.gov, "beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com" 
<beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com>, "Stoner, Kimberly" 
<Kimberly.Stoner at ct.gov>, "pollinator at lists.sonic.net" 
<pollinator at lists.sonic.net>
Date:
04/06/2011 04:58 PM
Subject:
Re: [beemonitoring] Propylene glycol and cats
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I don't know that anyone has collected data on the effect of propylene 
glycol on wild felines, but it would certainly not be surprising if they 
showed sensitivity similar to that seen in domestic cats, so that may be a 
reasonable concern in some areas.

Sam or others who've been trapping with propylene glycol for a while: do 
you see much evidence of ANY mammals drinking it?  One advantage over 
ethylene glycol is supposed to be the lack of a sweet taste possibly 
making it less appealing (of course, domestic cats supposedly can't taste 
"sweet" anyhow). I think the main reason there has been research on the 
impact of propylene glycol on cats is with respect to its use as a food 
additive.

On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Jil_Swearingen at nps.gov wrote:

[Attachment(s) from Jil_Swearingen at nps.gov included below]
Leo and others, 

Bobcats and other wild felines could be affected. Does anyone have any 
information on that? 

Thanks, 

Jil 

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Leo Shapiro 
<leoshapiro99 at gma 
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Sent by: "Stoner, Kimberly" 
beemonitoring at yah <Kimberly.Stoner at ct.gov> 
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"beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com" 
<beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com>, 
04/06/2011 04:13 "pollinator at lists.sonic.net" 
PM <pollinator at lists.sonic.net> 
Subject 
Re: [beemonitoring] Propylene 
glycol and cats 

Yes, this is good for people to be aware of. But I'm guessing cats are 
less inclined to drink the stuff than are many other animals (I'm sure 
someone will correct me if I'm mistaken!). 

Of course, cats should not be wandering around outdoors anyhow: 

http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/cats/index.html 

Leo Shapiro 

On Apr 6, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Stoner, Kimberly wrote: 

In relation to propylene glycol and cats: 

Apparently cats do have unique sensitivity to propylene glycol, which 
is not true of humans, dogs, or cattle. 

See this publication by the American Chemistry Council, not a group 
of ?chemophobes? by any stretch of the imagination: 

http://msdssearch.dow.com/PublishedLiteratureDOWCOM/dh_0046/0901b80380046c77.pdf?filepath=propyleneglycol/pdfs/noreg/117-01660.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc

and this article on ?Heinz body formation in cats? from a veterinary 
school: 

http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/clerk/tarigo/index.php 

?Propylene glycol (PG) is a common cause of HzB in cats. PG is a 
polyhydric alcohol used commonly as a solvent and preservative in 
pharmaceuticals, and as an inexpensive carbohydrate source in 
semi-moist foods for animals.3? 

3. Christopher MM, White JG, Eaton JW. Erythrocyte pathology and 
mechanisms of Heinz body-mediated hemolysis in cats. Vet Pathol. 
27:299-310. 1990. 

It would be wise to put the propylene glycol traps in locations where 
cats would not have access to them (inside fences, perhaps?) I?ll 
think about that for the traps I intend to be putting out next week! 

Kim Stoner 

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