[Pollinator] [beemonitoring] Should we tell them?

[Louise Lynch]

Not at all! My pleasure. I forwarded said message and contact info. I’ll keep you posted if they get back.


Kind regards,
Louise I. Lynch

Graduate Research Assistant
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Department of Entomology
220 Entomology Hall
Lincoln, Nebraska 68583-8692
http://entomology.unl.edu/
http://bumbleboosters.unl.edu

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On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Peter Bernhardt <bernhap2 at slu.edu> wrote:

Dear Ms. Lynch:

Your message is enormously helpful at several levels.  Now I can understand the whole point of the two demonstration tables two weeks ago.  So, Whole Foods shops do work together on shared projects.  You and your department gave them some useful information on pollinator sustainability.

May I ask a favor?  Would you mind sharing my previous communications on the St. Louis store with the people at Whole Foods who asked for information on pollinators?  You can use my name.  It's my own fault I rarely carry my university business cards.  You are permitted to give them my office number (314-977-7152) but warn them they must call by May 7 if they want a fast reply (I'm about to do some research overseas).  Perhaps other people who answered my query would be willing to volunteer their own comments and replies? That might also consider contacting Dr. Ed Spevak (Curator of Invertebrates) at the St. Louis Zoo.  He's instituted public outreach programs on pollinators (especially bumblebees) that really seem to work.

I hope you don't think I'm dumping this on your lap.  You do know more about Whole Foods' interest in "Share the Buzz" compared to anyone who joined in this conversation previously, and that includes me.

Sincerely, Peter Bernhardt

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Louise Lynch <LILynch777 at yahoo.com <mailto:LILynch777 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Dr. Bernhardt - I wanted to pitch something to your question of what do we do when presumably well-meaning businesses or public institutions spread inaccurate information...

Regarding Whole Foods specifically, my lab was contacted by a local Whole Foods community relations representative in March of 2014 to participate in their April Earth Month activities. They were searching for local experts on pollinators to do programs on bees to support their Share the Buzz program: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/pollinators <http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/pollinators>. It is my understanding that Whole Foods is quite passionate about this program. So yes! I think we should tell them! In a way that will encourage them to work with us. I am sure there are other such programs at various Whole Foods store locations and that they would likely appreciate collaboration with expertise in their community.

We try to provide reliable information and where possible, make the presentations ourselves. So in our Whole Foods case, we tried to answer the need in person. Of course this is not possible for every outreach event and call. But we do what we can in our community. We also try to make materials (educational kits, educational materials, programming, etc.) available where possible to help people (teachers, educators, etc.) better inform other people. If I came across the situation you did in Whole Foods, I probably would have discussed the information with them, too, as you did, and leave behind my card so we could continue the conversation. I hope Whole Foods will continue to reach out to us in the future so we can help them get the right kind of information out to the public. 

Dr. Wen - we’ve discussed the MacIvor & Packer (2015) publication in our lab, too, as we do programs that sometimes involve bee hotels. When I first read the article, I’ll admit, my heart sank. I, too am interested in what others have to say on this. Upon reviewing the article again, it certainly provided some important considerations and clarifications on bee hotels, but I don’t think it completely writes off their use.  




Kind regards,
Louise I. Lynch

Graduate Research Assistant
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Department of Entomology
220 Entomology Hall
Lincoln, Nebraska 68583-8692
http://entomology.unl.edu/ <http://entomology.unl.edu/>
http://bumbleboosters.unl.edu <http://bumbleboosters.unl.edu/>


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On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Peter Bernhardt bernhap2 at slu.edu <mailto:bernhap2 at slu.edu> [beemonitoring] <beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com <mailto:beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


Dear Gord:

Oh yes, there's a BIG gap between academics and the general public.  It's the reason I turned to writing popular books 25 years ago (with very limited results).  Steve Buchmann's upcoming book (The Reason for Flowers) will fill in gaps but the information our organizations have needs to be spread beyond publishing houses and Kindle.  My original email on this topic has been bandied about but no one has really answered the question.  What do we do when presumably well-meaning businesses or public institutions spread inaccurate information?  How should I approach Whole Foods with basic information like...

a) A bee hotel is made of hollow reeds, not mulch or garden debris,  and most bees aren't interested in them anyway.

b)  If you do make one keep them out of the reach of small children as such hotels are almost invariably colonized by wasps.*

c)  To grow wildflowers follow the instructions on the packet.  You're not going to have much success overcrowding seeds in small, shallow cups that lack a drainage hole.

Ed Spevak has a big public outreach program on pollinators at the St. Louis Zoo and it works at several levels because different techniques are used to interest people in different age groups.  I look forward to his comments. 

*  Jack,  I correspond with Dr. Alcock and used to correspond with the late Howard Ensign Evans so I know that wasps are are fascinating, beautiful, economically important and some are important pollinators (see my paper on Paeonia brownii).  The public needs to know, though, that if their gardens cater to wasps be prepared to lose some of those nice butterflies and moths as their caterpillars will be converted to meat pastes by diligent foragers.  

Peter

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Odo Natasaki <odonatas at uvic.ca <mailto:odonatas at uvic.ca>> wrote:
Michael,

The same applies to odonates (compared to bats), but mostly I enlighten people about odonates being "dragons" on the wing and they will even be cannibalistic given the chance. 

I agree that there is a lot of "mal-information" when it comes to passing information to the general public, but at least some of us are trying to do it properly. I've noted quite a disconnect between some academics and the general public. That's where I like to come in for instance.

Gord Hutchings

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On Apr 26, 2015, at 9:56 AM, "askartie at aol.com <mailto:askartie at aol.com> [beemonitoring]" <beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com <mailto:beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

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> I have to agree with Dave.  Sometimes misguided information can be a problem.  We see this in the mosquito world a lot.  I often hear of websites quoting some statistic that bats can eat 2000 mosquitoes in one night.  Well, sure if they are in a room with nothing but mosquitoes (I would probably eat a bunch too if placed in such quarters), but in the real world we know that optimal foraging will have them chasing down noctuid moths and other juicer morsels - why eat a piece of popcorn when there is steak flying around?  However, because of that one statistic, there are people who think the best way to eliminate mosquitoes is to put bat boxes everywhere.  Ah...if only it were that simple.  I love bats (and the various insects and arachnids that actually use the bat boxes since the bats rarely do in most parts of the world), and am glad that people are becoming aware of the importance of bats in nature.  Unfortunately, the misguided education sometimes prevents the use of effective mosquito control methods.  If there are ways to present the same information in a manner that is effective, we should encourage that instead.  Dave's "Things to Do" list makes a lot more sense than sending people home with a ball of sticks and a plant that won't survive.  We can do awareness AND good education at the same time.  We must.
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> I believe there is a strategic dance between awareness and misguided education.
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> Peter is right that Whole Foods, at this particular store, is potentially teaching poor bee management techniques.  However, they are enlightening their customers that there are more bees than the one.  …and if someone asks “where is the honey stored?”, the store clerks might be able to add “not all bees make honey and there are a lot of bees out in our yards that are endangered.”  That’s potentially the end of their knowledge.  Adding a few flowers, though possibly ineffective, provides something easy that a person can do.  
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> The first step of actually reaching the public with this small bit of information is wonderful.
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> Whole Foods, from what I understand, is based on independent stores making independent decisions.  Thus, I surmise that Peter found the only store in all of Whole Foods that had this one approach.  The employees are empowered to make differences… I don’t think it’s a top down education program.
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> Two paths that my team will be taking on in the next few months.
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> Create an infographic that could be forwarded to the various Whole Foods districts.  It will have simple awareness bullets as well as simple “what you can do to help the pollinators” tips.  We’ll try to have this distributed prior to Pollinator Week that pollinator.org <http://pollinator.org/> founded.
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> ·         Remove a portion of your lawn and add some native flowers
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> While this infographic may not reach all stores, and all stores may not have employees that care enough to teach their customers, it will be a steady march in the right direction of public awareness to our native bees.
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> Peter, thanks for this string.
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> If anyone would like to help, please reach out to me.  
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> From: beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com <mailto:beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com> [mailto:beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com <mailto:beemonitoring at yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jack Neff jlnatctmi at yahoo.com <mailto:jlnatctmi at yahoo.com> [beemonitoring]
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> I see nothing wrong with setting out "bee hotels" as they are a step to increasing awareness.  If nest sites aren't limiting in the area, they won't do much for bee populations but they won't hurt.  More likely various eumenines, pompilids and sphecoids will set up shop and these are all generally considered beneficial (unless one is a big fan of caterpillars, spiders or crickets).  The only wasp predators of bees (Philanthus) are ground nesters.  Eventually such hotels will attract nest parasitoids and if unmanaged, become unsustainable,  but this happens at reused natural nest sites as well.
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> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:51 AM, "Peter Bernhardt bernhap2 at slu.edu <mailto:bernhap2 at slu.edu> [beemonitoring]" <beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com <mailto:beemonitoring-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> Has anyone been to a Whole Foods store in the last couple of weeks?  A week ago I went in to buy a piece of fish.  When I entered the vegetable section  I was greeted by two women who announced that "Pollinators are Endangered."  I was invited to make a "bug hotel" to attract them to my garden.  Yes, they were assembling twigs and broken stalks into balls secured by wire.  I told them that the most recent publication on these bee motels is that they were not good for bees (most are ground nesters) and were more likely to attract bee predators like certain wasps.  One of the Whole Food Employees was miffed.  She snapped, "Good, I love wasps."
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> On the way out of the store more employees stood by a table offering tiny, shallow, pots the circumference of 50 cent pieces.  There was dry, potting medium in the pots and they threw seeds of some composite (probably a coreopsis) on the surface."Would you like to learn how to garden with wildflowers and help our pollinators?" one asked. "I already garden with wildflowers," I replied. 
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>  "Well," if you go inside they will show you how to make a bug hotel."  I repeated pretty much what I'd said to the hotel makers.  I also suggested they might join NAPPC and explained the acronym.  It seemed best to leave and not tell them that those seeds wouldn't do very well in such a tiny, shallow pot.
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> Here in St. Louis, the Whole Foods employees are quite young and they are always full of advice.  Would it be possible for us to offer them accurate information?  Currently, the St. Louis Zoo does a very nice job educating its members about pollinators during pollinator week in June.  Our lab puts up posters, exhibits boxes of specimens. We sell some of our books and photos. 
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