[HECnet] Public Services over DECnet

[Tim Stark]

Dan,

 

Well, psuvax1 was available to BITNET during my college life (1984 to 1990).  I mean that MUD server was on PSUVMS, not PSUVAX1.  I tried to remember which BITNET node. 

 

I do not know what happens to UREP software yet.  I was looking for that but can’t find so far…  There is only open-source RSCS emulator (FunetNJE) available on funnet’s ftp site.

Also I found open-source HUJINET for VMS is available on that ftp site. 

 

I successfully installed JNet 3.6 and TCPNJE 1.2 on my SIMH emulator.  Since I do not have JNet manuals, I figured out how to install and configure.  I have to write installation guide in progress.

I am now able send messages and files.  I learned that JNet supports DECnet links for sending files to specific persons. 

 

Does anyone have copy of JNet manuals include programming guide?

 

Tim

 

From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Dan Cross
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 5:03 PM
To: hecnet at update.uu.se
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Public Services over DECnet

 

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Timothy Stark <fsword007 at gmail.com <mailto:fsword007 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks,

I was exposed to only local DECnet during college life (1984-1990) at Gallaudet University in DC area. I was CS student.  I had accessed to VAX, PDP-10 (TOPS-10), and Ultrix system which was connected to the Internet (SURAnet). VAX system was connected to BITNET with using JNet software.  I used DECnet to transfer my files between VAX, PDP-10 and Ultrix systems and logged into other systems via DECnet (set host command). 

I got JNet software with TCPNJE driver for my emulated VAX system.  I installed FunetNJE (available on ftp.funet.fi <http://ftp.funet.fi> ) on Linux system and was able send messages to my emulated VAX system or via.  I am still looking for JNet 1.x and 2.x for older VMS operating systems that I have. Also, I am still looking for JNet manuals as well. 

 

Wow, I've been wondering whatever happened to JNet. Same with UREP (Unix RSCS Emulation Program: basically, BITNET for Unix).

 

Some BITNET file servers have good resources for VM and VAX operating systems. There were RELAY servers as well.

Yeah. There are still MUD sources (like TinyMUD and AberMUD) on the Internet for UNIX systems.

There was MUD server on PSUVAX for a few months. That was so fun until system admin asked someone to shut down due to excessively resources. I tried to contact MUD developer to give me a copy but they said no.

 

Hmm. Do you know what timeframe that was in? psuvax1 was actually a Sun in it's later life (a 4/280, I think?)....

 

At college, We used Kermit to access VAX, PDP-10 and Ultrix systems as terminal and file transfers (very slow!!). Network admin told me that and use TCP/IP software instead. TCP/IP is much more effective than Kermit. 

I graduated from Gallaudet University before TCP/IP became standard (replaces old Kermit, etc.) for system-wide use after sys admin retired.

 

Yeah. I saw that declining of BITnet in 1990s in favors of the Internet as standard communication.  I never use THEnet because it was not available at my college campus.  Today I recently discovered HECnet and am planning to join HECnet with my emulated VAX system.  I am considering about Hobbyist version of BITnet some day with JNet and FunetNJE software. I had seen some people used Hercules 390 to run VM/ESA or z/VM to can communicate with that. VM/370 (released to public) does not support that yet.

 

I can't say I'm sad to see RSCS networks die, but there's definitely some nostalgia factor to seeing people use BITNET again.

 

        - Dan C.

 

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