[HECnet] Multinet Mail

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Thu Jun 6 13:32:59 PDT 2019


Ah, yes. That's the one. Sorry, my brain seems to work slowly tonight.

   Johnny

On 2019-06-06 22:25, Kurt Hamm wrote:
> This is what my ipnet location shows.  Is it MLTCFG.TSK?
> Kurt
> Directory DU0:[IPNET]
> 6-JUN-2019 16:19
> 
> INS.CMD;172         2.         27-JUN-2018 12:32
> INSHECNET.CMD;1     2.         10-JAN-2018 05:47
> INS.NEW;208         2.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IPNET.NEW;106       2.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IPNET.CMD;208       5.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IP.OBJ;208          13.        11-JAN-2019 03:13
> MLTNET.TSK;209      16.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
> MLTCOM.TSK;208      14.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
> MLTCOM.STB;208      1.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> MLTCFG.TSK;208      18.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IPLN.DAT;208        1.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IP.DAT;208          1.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IPDF.MAC;208        2.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IPNCONFIG.CMD;106   4.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IP.TSK;197          3.      C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
> IP.STB;197          1.         11-JAN-2019 03:13
> 
> Total of 87./87. blocks in 16. files
> 
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:13 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se 
> <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
> 
>     Well, my point was just that ethernet is a better local networking than
>     point-to-point multinet links. But of course multinet links also works.
> 
>     And I remember wrong. All the multinet stuff for RSX is under [IPNET]
> 
>         Johnny
> 
>     On 2019-06-06 21:26, Kurt Hamm wrote:
>      > I am looking in IP and there isn't anything for MNC.
>      >
>      > In terms of topology, I currently have two 3900s, Larry and Moe. 
>     Larry
>      > is configured for the connection to HECNet.  Moe is configured
>     (decnet
>      > over IP) to connect to Larry.  This seems to work with both servers
>      > being able to set host and see files on HECNet.
>      >
>      > My idea was that I could have the PDP-11 (Frodo) point to Larry
>     as well
>      > via DECNet over IP.
>      >
>      > Is this what you are describing?
>      >
>      > Kurt
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Directory DU0:[IP]
>      > 6-JUN-2019 15:09
>      >
>      > NTPDATE.TSK;210     63.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > NTPDATRES.TSK;210   42.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > MAILD.TSK;123       237.    C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > PCL.TSK;210         63.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > PCLRES.TSK;213      33.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > IFDRV.TSK;213       7.      C  13-JAN-2019 14:47
>      > IPDRV.TSK;213       14.     C  13-JAN-2019 14:47
>      > UDDRV.TSK;213       16.     C  13-JAN-2019 14:48
>      > TCDRV.TSK;213       35.     C  13-JAN-2019 14:48
>      > IFCONFIG.TSK;424    37.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > NETSTAT.TSK;424     23.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > PING.TSK;424        64.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TRACERT.TSK;424     16.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > ETHACP.TSK;424      25.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > RESACP.TSK;424      24.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > RMD.TSK;400         217.    C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > DHCP.TSK;409        67.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > DHCPRES.TSK;409     45.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > RWHOD.TSK;396       15.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TFTPD.TSK;396       64.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > INETD.TSK;409       12.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > SPOOF.TSK;409       12.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > WWW.TSK;409         117.    C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > WWWRES.TSK;409      94.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > IRCBOT.TSK;409      66.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > FTPD.TSK;409        62.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TELNETD.TSK;408     26.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TELNET.TSK;408      41.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TFTP.TSK;394        106.    C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > IRC.TSK;408         72.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > IRCRES.TSK;395      46.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > FTP.TSK;409         67.     C  11-JAN-2019 03:13
>      > TELCOM.TSK;402      3.      C  13-JAN-2019 14:48
>      >
>      > Total of 1831./1831. blocks in 33. files
>      >
>      > On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 3:17 PM Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
>     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>      > <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     If you have my TCP/IP installed, and you have generated
>     DECnet with the
>      >     Multinet lines, then things should be pretty easy. MNC might
>     not be
>      >     installed, but MNC.TSK should be in [IP], so just install it
>     then.
>      >
>      >     However, do you really have all your DECnet machines on separate
>      >     ethernets? Otherwise I would really recommend that you have
>     DECnet on
>      >     your local ethernet, and just have one machine which is the
>     router to
>      >     the outside from the ethernet segment. Individual
>     point-to-point links
>      >     will not be as efficient as the ethernet.
>      >
>      >         Johnny
>      >
>      >     On 2019-06-06 21:09, Kurt Hamm wrote:
>      >      > New issue.  I am working to setup my (Oscar) PiDP-11 on HECNet
>      >      > (Decnet).  The docs say that I need to run MNC to setup
>     the links
>      >     for
>      >      > DECNet, but I can't find that application anywhere.  I am
>      >     assuming that,
>      >      > for the PiDP-11, NETGEN  and IPNET have been completed.  I
>     just
>      >     need to
>      >      > configure my circuits and make sure the PiDP-11 has the
>     correct
>      >     area.node.
>      >      >
>      >      > RSX-11M+ newbie, so sorry if I am missing something basic.
>      >      >
>      >      > Kurt
>      >      >
>      >      > On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Johnny Billquist
>     <bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>      >     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>
>      >      > <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     On 2019-06-06 15:04, Kurt Hamm wrote:
>      >      >      > I wasn't sure where to post this question, so I
>     thought I
>      >     would
>      >      >     start here.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > I have two simh vax3900 machines.  Larry and Moe. 
>     Larry
>      >     is the
>      >      >     HECNet
>      >      >      > router for Moe.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > When I send email from Larry (via SMTP), the
>     _return _email
>      >      >     address is
>      >      >      > correct (SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
>      >      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM> <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
>      >      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at LARRY.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>>.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > When I send email from Moe (to
>      >     LARRY::SMTP%"user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
>     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>
>      >      >     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
>     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>>
>      >      >      > <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
>     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>
>      >     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>
>     <mailto:user at domain.com <mailto:user at domain.com>>>>"), the return
>      >      >     email address is:
>      >      >      > SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
>      >      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>
>      >      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>
>      >      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>
>      >     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM
>     <mailto:SYSTEM at SCSSYSTEMID.MYDOMAIN.COM>>>>.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > Why is Moe using the SCSSYSTEMID instead of the
>     system name?
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > *I am missing something.*
>      >      >
>      >      >     I'm not sure how you should do a setup of mail
>     relaying in VMS.
>      >      >
>      >      >     However, you can always send from Moe to
>     MIM::user at domain.com <mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com>
>      >     <mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com
>     <mailto:MIM%253A%253Auser at domain.com>>
>      >      >     <mailto:MIM%3A%3Auser at domain.com
>     <mailto:MIM%253A%253Auser at domain.com>
>      >     <mailto:MIM%253A%253Auser at domain.com
>     <mailto:MIM%25253A%25253Auser at domain.com>>>. Those
>      >      >     mails should then get correct addresses.
>      >      >
>      >      >         Johnny
>      >      >
>      >      >     --
>      >      >     Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>      >      >                                         ||  on a
>     psychedelic trip
>      >      >     email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>
>      >     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>>             ||
>      >      >     Reading murder books
>      >      >     pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay
>     hip" -
>      >     B. Idol
>      >      >
>      >
>      >     --
>      >     Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>      >                                         ||  on a psychedelic trip
>      >     email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>
>     <mailto:bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>>             ||
>      >     Reading murder books
>      >     pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" -
>     B. Idol
>      >
> 
>     -- 
>     Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
>                                         ||  on a psychedelic trip
>     email: bqt at softjar.se <mailto:bqt at softjar.se>             || 
>     Reading murder books
>     pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
> 

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol


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