[HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS numbers?

[Tony Nicholson]

I've been running latd on my Raspberry Pi 4 for a while (the default
install starts up using the hostname as a service name).
>From OpenVMS LATCP it shows up as -

LATCP> show service pi5
 LAT Control Program
Service Name:     PI5
Service Status:   Available
Service Ident:    Linux 5.10.63-v7l+

Node Name            Status      Rating   Identification
PI5                  Reachable     10     Linux 5.10.63-v7l+

Would you care to share your RaspbianDECnet mods Keith?  I'd like to try
this too.

The other question to me is - should I pioneer this using the just released
Raspberry Pi OS Debian Bullseye?  I think I might!

Tony

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:22 AM Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood at pitbulluk.org>
wrote:

> Well, that was an interesting compilation of the raspbian kernel.
> I cloned https://github.com/JohnForecast/RaspbianDECnet and got busy. I
> had to remove the --help-- stanzas from the Kconfig file. They were
> tripping something up.
> I had to move the MAC address change to the bridge (I use
> /etc/network/interfaces with bridges and taps etc..)
>
> DECnet is all working on a 32bit raspbian on a pi3b+, HECnet node name
> 29.115 - I'll christen it at some point :)
> Thank you John Forecast for doing all the hard work.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
> Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
> Sent: 07 November 2021 20:37
> To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
> Subject: Re: [HECnet] Is this the most up to date version of DECnet OS
> numbers?
>
> On 2021-11-07 18:06, Robert Armstrong wrote:
> >> I think DECnet/8 is for RTS-8, but there never was one for OS-8.
> >
> >    Yes, the DECnet-8 was for RTS although you could run OS/8 as a task
> > under RTS (so maybe those two count as the same).  In any case AFAIK
> > there was never any NFT or FAL or remote terminal or NCP/NML or
> > anything else like that implemented for DECnet/8.  It was more of a
> > toolkit kind of thing where you could write your own RTS program to
> > make a DECnet connection to another node.  What you sent over that
> connection was your problem.
>
> Right. It was/is slightly more than a toolkit. It does have a couple of
> processes which deals with circuits and executor management. And I think
> there is TLK/LSN so you can communicate. But beyond that, you were on your
> own.
>
> And no, OS/8 under RTS-8 don't allow them to be counted as one. :-)
>
> >    Never heard of DECnet for CP/M although there certainly was one for
> MSDOS.
> > Linux is interesting, although I doubt that was put there by DEC.
> > Probably somebody added it later.
>
> Linux was definitely defined post-DEC. I simply just talked with a Linux
> FAL from RSX and checked what value it put in the OS field, and added that
> to my list from there.
>
> >    And what the heck is COPOS/11??  I see that is says TOPS-20 front
> > end, but I thought TOPS20 used the same RSX20F as TOPS10.
>
> I don't think it's the same as the RSX20F frontend. I have no idea what it
> is, but it's in the source files for the RSX DECnet code. Sounds like some
> oddball thing that existed somewhere. CSS thing maybe?
>
> >    And DTF/MVS?  Is that the IBM OS MVS?
>
> I almost suspect it might be, but again, no real clue. All I can say is
> that this is what is in the RSX sources.
>
>    Johnny
>
> --
> Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
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>


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Tony Nicholson <tony.nicholson at computer.org>
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