[Pollinator] strange phenomenon

Fri Jul 25 14:59:30 PDT 2014

I am travelling so do not have my reference books but I believe it is well 
known many bees and butterflies do collect minerals for their diet. The
below link reports 
on bees and butterflies drinking from crocodile tears for their salts for
example!
http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/7139/20140501/butterflies-bees-find-nu
trition-crocodile-tears.htm 

Occasionally I will go down to my stream, and whenever I see one of my
honeybees 
sipping water it is from a wet rock or the mud, not from a clear patch of
water. My 
beekeeping teacher taught us to give mineralized salts occasionally in the
hive to help 
the mineral needs.

The rusting galvanized metal certainly has iron in it, and who knows what
else. I imagine 
the bumble bees are after the mineral. couple items regarding iron in
honeybees, in 
the one case speaking of iron in development (I think butterflies need it to
reproduce) 
and iron containing an iron oxide, magnetite, which gives them sensitivity
to the magnetic field.
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/126/1/389.full.pdf 
http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1128&context=p
hy_fac

Perhaps the bumble bees are taking in iron.

Hope that is interesting,

Jeff Pfoutz
beekeeper

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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:05:22 -0700
From: "Vicki Wojcik" <vw at pollinator.org>
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Subject: [Pollinator] FW: Retha Meier sent you a video: "Native bee on
	Viola	pedata"
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Here is a link to a quick video of pollination.

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This video was recorded at our research site at Cuivre River State Park,
just outside of Troy, Missouri. Andrena carlini, the most common visitor to
our Cuivre River population, inverts its body to forage on Viola pedata. The
occurrence of the two color morphs of V. pedata is approximately 50/50 at
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Hey Margarita,

If it is galvanized sheeting, they could be taking in zinc. I know zinc can
cause poisoning to plants, but I'm not sure about insects. Interesting.
?
Logan Minter, PhD, Adjunct Faculty
Shawnee State University
Natural Sciences and Statistics
940 Second Street
Portsmouth, Ohio 45662
Cell#: (740) 970-2053
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On Monday, July 21, 2014 11:51 AM, Margarita Lopez Uribe via Pollinator
<pollinator at lists.sonic.net> wrote:

A strange phenomenon reported - hundreds of bumble bees visiting/alighting
on rusted metal on galvanized sheeting.
>They seem to be ingesting something along rusty patches of galvanized
sheeting.
>
>Have you any idea why? ??Is this likely to poison them? ?Can they be
discouraged safely for their own good ?

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Rusty patches -- could be they are after iron oxide. Horses will lick rusty
steel (iron).

Ann Harman

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Hey Margarita,

If it is galvanized sheeting, they could be taking in zinc. I know zinc can
cause poisoning to plants, but I'm not sure about insects. Interesting.

Logan Minter, PhD, Adjunct Faculty
Shawnee State University
Natural Sciences and Statistics
940 Second Street
Portsmouth, Ohio 45662
Cell#: (740) 970-2053
log_mint at yahoo.com

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  On Monday, July 21, 2014 11:51 AM, Margarita Lopez Uribe via Pollinator
<pollinator at lists.sonic.net> wrote:

A strange phenomenon reported - hundreds of bumble bees visiting/alighting
on rusted metal on galvanized sheeting.
They seem to be ingesting something along rusty patches of galvanized
sheeting.

Have you any idea why?   Is this likely to poison them?  Can they be
discouraged safely for their own good ?

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